clutchfans火箭论坛讨论翻译Yao or Van Gundy will be gone after this year[已扎口]

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  转自hoopchina
  
  
  If Van Gundy stays, I have to think that he'll demand we get rid of Yao. Did you see him pull Yao for considerable stretches in the 2nd half? He's lost all faith in Yao on defense, the guy is killing us. And it's hard to blame Van Gundy.
  
  On the other hand, it's hard to believe that Les Alexander would dump Yao with the amount of money he's invested/made from the guy. But from a basketball perspective, it's becoming clear that Yao will never be anything more than a good but not great center. He doesn't have the attitude or ability to take over games because of his lack of presence on defense. If Yao stays, we'll can Van Gundy and hire someone who is willing to put up with a 4 man defense
  如果范甘迪还呆在这,我想他需要把姚换走了。你没看到他在第二节打到一半的时候把姚放在场下相当长时间?他已经完全不信任姚的防守了,那家伙杀了我们,这很难责怪范甘迪。
  另一方面,很难想象亚历山大会放弃姚,他可是在姚身上大捞了一笔。但是从篮球角度来考虑,姚只是个好中锋永远不会是伟大的中锋,这一点是很清楚的。他没有那种能结束比赛的能力和心态,因为他防守的匮乏。如果姚还留在队伍里,范甘迪就会被炒,然后找个会用4个人防守的教练。
  
  we're not gonna trade away the whole Chinese market give me a break... JVG is gone for sure if we lose, no doubt about it
  
  
  我们永远不会放弃整个中国市场,让我歇一下……如果我们输了,范甘迪会走人的,不用怀疑
  
  Yao for Odom, anybody?
  
  
  用姚来换奥多姆,还是其他人?
  
  you kids and your negativity. pathetic
  你开玩笑还是你绝望了,可怜虫
  
  yao will never be traded - a decent center is hard to find in this league, let alone an allstar nearing superstar level.
  姚绝不会被交易的,在如今的联盟中一个强力中锋是很难得的,特别是一个接近巨星水准的全明星。
  
  Quote:
  Originally Posted by bob718
  Yao for Odom, anybody?
  
  
  you are joking right?
  
  
  (用姚换奥多姆)你一定是在开玩笑吧?
  
  It's jVG put Yao in when we were behind by 1. That's a bad move. when game was tight, you should not put your biggest hole for them to attack.
  
  
  是范甘迪让姚陷入一个人拖垮了队伍的麻烦的。那是个糟糕的情况,当比赛进入紧张阶段,你不能让你的大个子完全陷入对方的攻击。
  
  wow. you are an idiot. if you think les would pick yao over jvg, you're misinformed...
  
  哇,你是个白痴。如果你认为姚和范甘迪不能共存(蒙的,期待人间),你一定是被耍了……
  
  Let's trade him before other teams realize his faults. Maybe we can squeeze Mikki Moore and a second rounder from the Nets.
  
  我们应该在其他队伍认识到他的缺点前交易他。我们有可能从网队那里压榨来Mikki Moore和一个2轮选秀权。
  
  Too much alcohol. Lock this stupidity.
  
  
  发帖人酒喝多了,锁了这个愚蠢的帖子吧
  
  Trade Yao to Golden State. That's a win-win deal.
  
  
  把姚交易到金州勇士队,那是个双赢的法子。
  
  Quote:
  Originally Posted by bob718
  Yao for Odom, anybody?
  
  
  I hope you are joking
  
  Yao isn't going anywhere...and he shouldn't...but if we lose game 7, JVG has got to go...and I've been pro-JVG this whole time
  
  Perhaps our team will respond to someone with more fire...because our players sure don't have any.
  
  But when we win game 7, his job will be deservedly secure. Utah is a good team
  
  (用姚换奥多姆)我希望你只是开玩笑
  
  姚哪也不能去……他也不应该去……但是如果我们第7场输了,范甘迪就不得不走人了……我一直都比较看好范甘迪(是吧?)
  
  我们的队伍可能还会解雇一些人……毕竟我们的球员不是无可替代
  
  但是当我们赢得第7场比赛的时候,他的工作理所当然稳如泰山了。犹他是只不错的队伍。
  
  I bet we can get the whole starting lineup minus Kobe Bryant for Yao
  
  Lamar Odom, Smush Parker, Luke Walton, Kwame Brown > Yao Ming in terms of numbers
  
  我打赌姚能换来湖人除去科比以外的全部首发。
  
  奥多姆、帕克、沃顿、夸梅布朗加在一起用处大于姚明。
  
  Yao will never leave Houston!
  
  this thread is stupid
  
  firing Gundy ok, but trading one of our franchise players who brings more cash than Kobe and Tmac together is plain out dumb!
  姚永远不会离开休斯敦!
  这个帖子是愚蠢的
  解雇范甘迪就可以了,但交易一个比科比和麦迪加在一起还能赚更多钱的特权球员,是再清楚不过的胡闹。
  
  yao for boozer so next year when rox meet jazz it will be 4:0
  
  
  用姚交易布泽尔,那么明年火箭就可以4:0横扫爵士(哼!)
  
  Quote:
  Originally Posted by Matchman
  I bet we can get the whole starting lineup minus Kobe Bryant for Yao
  
  Lamar Odom, Smush Parker, Luke Walton, Kwame Brown > Yao Ming in terms of numbers
  
  
  Yeah, but we wouldn't make the playoffs with that team.
  
  (用姚换湖人科比以外的首发)是可以,但是用那样的队伍我们是进不了季后赛的。
  
  Gundy is leaving...at least i hope management is smart enough to see this
  
  范甘迪该走了……最起码我希望球队经理足够聪明能明白这点。
  
  If Rockets got emliminated in 7 games, then YES, he's gone!
  
  如果火箭第7场再负,那么是的,他得走人了
  
  Quote:
  Originally Posted by uchlha
  yao will never be traded - a decent center is hard to find in this league, let alone an allstar nearing superstar level.
  
  
  Superstar level?? Yao will never amount to anything in this league. If he were African American and didn't have his marketing value, no one would complain about trading the guy. He doesn't hustle, he doesn't show heart, and he plays worse defense than Karl Malone's bronze statue.
  
  
  巨星水平?姚永远不会进入联盟的这个等级。如果他是非裔美国人,没有他的市场价值,交易他就不会有人抱怨。他不会卡位,没有显示强大的精神力量,他的防守比卡尔马龙的青铜像还糟糕。
  
  this is all ridiculous. trade yao? are you out of your mind? for odom even???? odom's not exactly known for getting the most out of his potential either.....
  I can count the number of people I would even think about trading yao on one hand. lebron? sure. anyone else, don't think they would help us.
  
  yao has a tough time matching up with utah because they have one big man who can shoot the 3 and the other is a quick powerful all star with range. any other playoff team would be a better match up in that regard.
  
  this is the same player who was getting consideration for MVP before breaking his leg.
  
  
  交易姚?这太荒谬了。你疯了吗?甚至用他去换奥多姆???奥多姆还不知道他到底能发挥出多少潜力……
  我用一只手就能算出有几个人能交易姚,小皇帝?确定的是,包括其他能换姚的人,别想他们能帮助我们。
  姚在和犹他的比赛中陷入了苦战,这是因为他们有一个能投3分的大个子,而另一个又是个快速强力的全明星,其他的任一支季后赛队伍都不会比他们的配备更好了。
  他与那个腿伤前有希望竞选mvp的球员还是同一个人。
  
  Quote:
  Originally Posted by TheHangover
  Superstar level?? Yao will never amount to anything in this league. If he were African American and didn't have his marketing value, no one would complain about trading the guy. He doesn't hustle, he doesn't show heart, and he plays worse defense than Karl Malone's bronze statue.
  
  
  just put the pipe down and take a couple of steps back from the monitor
  
  deep breaths
  
  
  
  Yao is the best center in the league. 25 and 9...I would be complaining if we traded him
  
  只是放下哨子……(不行,我连蒙都蒙不出来了)
  深呼吸
  姚是目前联盟中最好的中锋,25分9篮板……如果我们交易他,我会一直抱怨的。
  
  This is the most ridiculous thing: Trade Yao meth. is a terrible drug.
  
  
  这是最可笑的事情:交易姚。这是饮鸩止渴。
  
  Quote:
  Originally Posted by TheHangover
  Superstar level?? Yao will never amount to anything in this league. If he were African American and didn't have his marketing value, no one would complain about trading the guy. He doesn't hustle, he doesn't show heart, and he plays worse defense than Karl Malone's bronze statue.
  
  
  The only African-American centers that have the same stats as Yao:
  Brand, Amare, Duncan, Shaq.
  
  You telling me no one will complain about trading these guys?
  
  Your race card is getting really old. So STFU.
  
  拥有和姚一样地位的非洲裔美国人:布兰德,阿玛尔,邓肯,沙克。
  你和我说交易这些人没有人会抱怨?
  你的种族观念真是相当古怪
  
  Quote:
  Originally Posted by TheHangover
  If Van Gundy stays, I have to think that he'll demand we get rid of Yao. Did you see him pull Yao for considerable stretches in the 2nd half? He's lost all faith in Yao on defense, the guy is killing us. And it's hard to blame Van Gundy...
  
  
  Don't think. It's not your best attribute. The fact that you actually believed that TNT report is laughable. JVG lost so much confidence that he proceeded to reinsert him back in the lineup after a few minutes rest. Give me a break.
  
  
  甭想了。不是你的事。事实是你竟然相信TNT的报导真是太可笑了。范甘迪丢掉了信心以至于他在姚休息了几分钟后又把他插入了阵容。让我歇会吧。
  
  If it is JVG or Yao, the club will send JVG out of the door in a second. You cannot replace Yao, but you can replace JVG with another decent coach. Maybe we need someone who can coach offense, just for a change.
  
  
  如果要从范甘迪和姚中挑一个,俱乐部应该在第一秒把老范踢出门。你不可能找人取代姚,但是你能用另一个相当不错的教练取代范甘迪。我们可能需要一个懂得指导进攻的教练,改革一下。
  
  If he loses the 7th game, Yao's career will be over.
  
  
  如果他在第7场输了,姚的职业生涯将就此结束(太狠了吧,他才27)
  
  dude is just another fakers fan.
  
  
  楼主就是另一个冒牌火箭支持者
  
  Quote:
  Originally Posted by rwienert
  this is all ridiculous. trade yao? are you out of your mind? for odom even???? odom's not exactly known for getting the most out of his potential either.....
  
  I can count the number of people I would even think about trading yao on one hand. lebron? sure. anyone else, don't think they would help us.
  
  yao has a tough time matching up with utah because they have one big man who can shoot the 3 and the other is a quick powerful all star with range. any other playoff team would be a better match up in that regard.
  
  this is the same player who was getting consideration for MVP before breaking his leg.
  
  
  errr....anyone that talks about trading Yao isn't b/c they think it will benefit the team but instead it will benefit Yao and the team he's going to. Majority of the Yao's fans want Yao out of Rox tbh.
  
  
  呃……任何讨论交易姚的人都不是b/c(不明白什么意思),他们以为这会对球队有利,但实际上是对姚和得到他的球队有利。姚fans的绝大部分都希望他离开火箭。
  
  Quote:
  Originally Posted by TheHangover
  Superstar level?? Yao will never amount to anything in this league. If he were African American and didn't have his marketing value, no one would complain about trading the guy. He doesn't hustle, he doesn't show heart, and he plays worse defense than Karl Malone's bronze statue.
  
  If Yao were African American, he would had been treeated much fair by referees.
  
  
  如果姚是个非裔美国人,他就能得到裁判的公平对待。
  
  Yao is a top 10 or top 5 greatest center in NBA! where are those idiots?
  
  
  姚是NBA头10名或头5名的伟大中锋!那些(想交易他的)傻瓜都在哪儿呢?
  
  Quote:
  Originally Posted by demon77
  errr....anyone that talks about trading Yao isn't b/c they think it will benefit the team but instead it will benefit Yao and the team he's going to. Majority of the Yao's fans want Yao out of Rox tbh.
  
  
  your saying TheHangover is a YOF? it dose not make any sense.
  
  
  你说TheHangove是一个YOF ?没见识。(呵呵,蒙阿蒙)
  
  Yao Ming will never win an NBA championship. The goal of the Rockets is to win a championship, not have the 2nd best or 3rd best statistical center in the league or make a lot of money. The guy kills us where it matters; defense. No team can make up for a liability like him. If we can improve our team by trading him, we would be dumb not to do it. However, this is unlikely because other teams are also aware of his flaws.
  
  
  姚明永远不会赢得NBA总冠军。火箭的目标是赢得冠军,而不是在统计数字上拥有联盟第2或第3的最好中锋,或是赚钱。那个家伙的失误杀了我们;还有防守。没有队伍能负担起他那样的累赘(译者注:咱们第7场再下结论)。如果交易他能提高队伍的战斗力,我们应该毫不犹豫的做决定。然而,这是不可能的,因为其他队伍也害怕他的失误。(译者注:咱们不如把姚推到nba市场上,看看有什么后果)
  
  Quote:
  Originally Posted by ButtZilla
  If Rockets got emliminated in 7 games, then YES, he's gone!
  
  
  Yeah, JVG should be fired doubtlessly if Rockets got emliminated in 7 games.
  
  就是,如果火箭在第7场继续这种状态,无疑范甘迪会被解雇的。
  
  Quote:
  Originally Posted by TheHangover
  Yao Ming will never win an NBA championship. The goal of the Rockets is to win a championship, not have the 2nd best or 3rd best statistical center in the league or make a lot of money. The guy kills us where it matters; defense. No team can make up for a liability like him. If we can improve our team by trading him, we would be dumb not to do it. However, this is unlikely because other teams are also aware of his flaws.
  
  
  It's too bad you aren't the GM.
  
  I MEAN, WE COULD GET LAMAR ODOM!!!
  
  你不是球队经理,真是太糟糕了。
  我的意思是,我们就能得到奥多姆了!!!(反语吧)
  
  I'm guessing you made this thread in response to the trade T-Mac thread?
  我猜你发这个帖子是为了响应那个交易麦迪的帖子吧?
  
  Quote:
  Originally Posted by hooroo
  dude is just another fakers fan.
  
  
  You said it. I just don't know why everyone replies.
  
  IGNORE THIS THREAD!
  
  
  你说的对,我不知道为什么大家要回复这个帖子。
  忽略这个帖子吧!
  
  
  Are you kidding? Yao is a money making machine. And in a couple of years, Yao and TMac might even make it out of the first round.
  
  Please stop the negativity! One game left at home where the Rockets have beaten the Jazz three games in a row. It is not like the Rockets are having a hard time against a crappy team. Utah is the third best team in the NBA at home. There is no way the Rockets will lose game 7. And if they do lose, all the changes you are shouting for will come.
  
  
  你开玩笑呢吧?姚是个赚钱机器。两年内,姚和麦迪一定能冲破第一轮。
  
  不要再悲观了!主场的最后一战火箭会像前3场一样打败爵士的。不像火箭对付讨厌的球队很困难,犹他是nba联盟中主场战绩第3好的球队。火箭没有理由在第7场输球。如果他们输了,你所叫嚷的所有改变就会降临了。
  
  Quote:
  Originally Posted by lunaticrocket
  Are you kidding? Yao is a money making machine. And in a couple of years, Yao and TMac might even make it out of the first round.
  
  Please stop the negativity! One game left at home where the Rockets have beaten the Jazz three games in a row. It is not like the Rockets are having a hard time against a crappy team. Utah is the third best team in the NBA at home. There is no way the Rockets will lose game 7. And if they do lose, all the changes you are shouting for will come.
  
  
  Who cares if we make it out of the first round? The goal is to win a championship. Defense wins championships. Yao is the one of the worst starting defensive centers in the NBA right now. And for everyone who is calling him the best center in the NBA, news flash! In a couple of years, Stoudemire, Okafor, Howard, Oden, and Bynum will all be better than him. Scoring average doesn't exactly tell the story.
  
  
  谁在乎我们是不是能冲破第一轮?目标是赢得总冠军。防守赢得冠军。姚是目前nba 防守最糟糕的首发中锋之一。就为了每个称呼他为联盟最佳中锋的人,新闻闪现罢了!两年内,斯塔德迈尔、奥库、霍华德、奥登,还有拜纳姆都会比他更好。平均分数不能说明全部问题。(这是个大姚黑,翻译得不爽)
  
  Someone please lock the nonsense....
  
  来人锁了这个废话帖
  
  Quote:
  Originally Posted by TheHangover
  Who cares if we make it out of the first round? The goal is to win a championship. Defense wins championships. Yao is the one of the worst starting defensive centers in the NBA right now. And for everyone who is calling him the best center in the NBA, news flash! In a couple of years, Stoudemire, Okafor, Howard, Oden, and Bynum will all be better than him. Scoring average doesn't exactly tell the story.
  
  
  Yao +JVG for Lamar Odom + Luke Walton + Brian Cook + Phil Jackson and their 2nd round draft this year.
  
  I would pull the trigger.
  
  
  姚+范甘迪换奥多姆+沃顿+库克+菲尔杰克逊和他们今年的第二轮选秀权。
  
  我会扣动扳机的(嗯,是决定这么做,还是想自杀?呵呵)
  

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楼主ithinktherefor 时间:2007-05-05 05:39:49 安徽
  另外clutchfans还有一个帖子,可以看出来全世界的姚黑素一个调调阿..
  1. Yao will be 28 next season.
  2. He has persistent leg injury problems.
  3. He can't play defense.
  4. He has probably exhausted his potential.
  
  But yes he does have value, just not championship value. Unless you consider winning a ring riding the pine as a 35 year old championship value.
  
  然后有人反驳
  1. Yao was born on Sep. 12, 1980 so hes not even 27 yet. He will be 27 next season.
  2. Well he's no Grant Hill or Ken Griffey Jr.
  3. C'mon now you are just pulling stuff out of your ass.
  4. Are you sniffing glue??? Look at the stats for the love of God. How has increasing your totals in every category each year exhausting his potential. The more years he plays - the more he learns.
  
  最后还是姚黑来个总结=_=
  Game 7,win or lose, does not change the facts:
  
  Yao is soft and slow on defense and offense.
  no mid-range game, even Stoudmire got one.
  his jump shooting sucks, he even does not bother to control it.
  he may know how to pass but never pass.
  he has 0 rebounding skills.
  he has 0 shot blocking skills.
  he has 0 dribble skills.
  he has 0 willingness for a dunk.
  his hand fumbles everything.
  he feels no shame when his shots were blocked viciously so many times.
  he is just not good at basketball.
  
  he wasted his only gift, the height, by shooting jumpers.
  he lost his moves and hook shot.
  and he is developing to be a big Z without jump shooting touch. If this is the progress you are talking about, then stfu.
  
  
作者:贴砖 时间:2007-05-05 06:01:51 海南
  哈哈米国人还是挺可爱的嘛
作者:贴砖 时间:2007-05-05 06:03:44 海南
  忘了 我是沙发HOHO
作者:我什么都没看到 时间:2007-05-05 07:32:40 辽宁
  说的没错,,火箭4个人放手
作者:江南秋意浓 时间:2007-05-05 08:02:49 浙江
  姚是有点软
作者:AdrenaliGX 时间:2007-05-05 08:53:51 澳门
  他的防守比卡尔马龙的青铜像还糟糕。
  
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   哈哈,老美说话幽默感挺强的哦

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