[推荐]对谈录:白色恐怖下的印度东北部

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CCC:hi you are there?
哈,你在啊。
CCC:thank God.... how are you?
怎样兄弟?
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Me:nice to meet you
很高兴见到你
Me:i am good,hehe
我还好。
Me:is communist your friend?
你是共产主义者的朋友吗?
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CCC:yes I am a communist.... or you can say a Maoist...
是的,我是共产主义者,或者你可以说是毛派。
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Me:something you cann’t belive,China college are not better than Indian
有些事情你可能想象不到,中国的大学还没印度的好。
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CCC:really? why so?
真的吗?为啥?
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Me:forgive me,sometime i must look up dictionary,but i will type as quickly as i can
不好意思,有时候我要查字典,不过我会尽可能的打字快点。
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CCC:i understand ... do not worry.... its ok...
we are not anglo saxons...
我理解,
我们不是英国人

Me:for many reasons,in fact,it’s passionately discussed in China now,
i think the government may take great effort on this issue
因为很多原因,实际上中国人现在正在很激烈的讨论这个问题。
我想政府正在下大力气解决这个问题。
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CCC:is the chinese govt corrupt..?
中国政府腐败吗?

Me:yes,in some case
是的,有些情况下
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CCC:Mao would have become very disappointed....
老毛会很失望的。

Me:something he couldn’t predict
有些事情他预测不到。
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CCC:yes.. you are right..
是的
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Me:but he leave us a powful organization to conquer everything if in need.
不过他留给我们一个强大的组织来解决任何事情,如果需要的话
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CCC:ok... that is what Mao contributed to China...
是的,这就是老毛对中国的贡献。
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Me:i think that is the greatest thing he did for us
我想这是他最伟大的贡献。
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CCC:yes... the greatest one... that even Lenin could not do..
是的,最伟大的,列宁也逊色于此。
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Me:maybe,but Lenin is great also
is there many people like you believe in communist?
也许吧,不过列宁也很伟大。
你们有很多人信仰毛泽东思想吗?
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CCC:Yes.. I respect Lenin... but Mao is better than Lenin... because Mao liberated the Chinese women...
Mao said women constitute half of the sky... so women must be free to get total freedom...
I like Chinese women.. they are very efficient and great...
是的,我尊敬列宁,不过老毛比他更牛,他解放了中国的妇女。
老毛说妇女能顶半边天,所以妇女必须得到彻底的解放。
我喜欢中国的女性,她们是勤劳伟大的。
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Me:yes,women,peasants,works,he liberate them all
most of them are good
是的,妇女,农民,工人,他全都解放了。
大多数中国妇女是好的。(说这话有点心虚)
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CCC:I do not like Caucasian women... they are sick people... In india the whole North Eastern parts have all Mongoloid people...
我不喜欢白种女人,她们不好,在印度整个东北部都是黄种人。
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Me:really?
真的吗?
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CCC:the Nagas, the Bodos, the Khasis, the Manipuris, Assamese, Gurkhas, and many others are Mongoloids..
那加人、Bodos人,Khasis人,曼尼普尔人,阿萨姆人,廓尔喀人,很多很多都是黄种人。
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Me:look like Nepali?
像尼泊尔人?
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CCC:To some extent...
But the brown Caucasians have subjugated us... and we are still colonized...
in Nagaland the Mongoloid people are still resisting the Hindu Caucasian forces...
so i was telling you about those helpless poor Mongoloids.... of India...
there are seven states... called seven sisters...
某种程度上
但是白种人压制了我们,我们仍然被殖民统治。
在那加兰,黄种人仍旧在抵抗印度白种人的军队。
我正在告诉你关于那些无助的印度黄种人的事情。
那里有七个邦,称作“七姐妹”。
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CCC:you know the Indian caste system is actually racism... diplomatic racism...
你知道印度的种姓制度吧
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Me:is that improve anyway
这方面有什么进步吗?
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CCC:there will never be any chance to improve their condition without armed rebellion...
that is why the indian state machinary ia thinking of killing all these austrics by brutal force..
india is not democratic...
believe me...
除了革命,没有什么能改进这个问题。
这就是为什么印度国家机器想用暴力杀掉所有这些土著黑人
印度不是个民主国家
相信我
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Me:sound difficult in recent years
这年头(革命)看起来不太靠谱啊。
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CCC:i can say there will be violent bloodshed and civil wars in india in the coming years...
我敢说,不久的将来印度会有流血暴力和内战
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Me:how could their voice be heard by world?
怎样让世界听到他们的声音呢?
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CCC:well, their voice is not heard by the world because media houses are run by Caucasians
and they deliberately suppress the news and incidents
他们的声音是不会被世界知道的,因为媒体都掌握在白人手里。
他们故意压制新闻和事件
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CCC:the total north eastern part of India is traditionally Chinese I can say...
我敢说,整个印度东北传统上应该属于华夏
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Me:yes,maybe Chinese are ancient men go out of that region
是的,可能远古中国人是从这个地区走出来的一支
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CCC:i will send you some histories of the north east later and you will be surprised to know that China was much bigger than what we know today
hindu caucasians deceitfully captured all lands...
我会给你些历史资料关于印度东北部的,你会惊奇的发现华夏比我们今天知道的范围要大多了。
印度白人靠欺骗占有了所有土地。
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Me:speak about DNA,Hans are close relative of Tibet
从DNA来看,汉族和藏族是近亲。
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CCC:yes.. i know... ...
the indo is later added
是的,我知道
印度白人是后来者
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Me:so,we are brothers indeed
所以我们是真兄弟
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CCC:yes... i told you that before... our gene is all the same...
是的,我跟你说过,我们血脉相同。
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Me:yes,brother
是的,兄弟
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CCC:thank you..... do you know the genetic identity of the Burmese and the Thai people...?
i think they are mixed...
谢谢,你知道缅甸和泰国人血统吗?我想到他们是混血的。
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Me:i don’t know Burmese,but some Thai are come from South China
Me:the had been a nation in south china,but they are defeated by Monglia,and they go to Thai
我不了解缅甸,不过泰国人一部分是从中国南部迁徙过来的。
曾经有个国家在中国南方,被蒙古人灭国了(大理),他们就迁徙到了泰国。
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CCC:yes it is due to the intiative of Chenghiz Khan that the Mongoloid race has been so well spread
是的,从成吉思汗开始,蒙古人种传播很远。
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CCC:you see, bollywood and cricket and all other indian panorama do not represent the Mongoloid race...
我明白,宝莱坞和什么以及所有的印度传媒都不会描述黄种人的。
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CCC:ok... i can say all the slight physical variations are due to mixing of blood... but on the whole we all the same..
是的,我想细微的差别是因为混血,整体来说我们是同族。
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CCC:yes... and what is China’s policy regarding the Indian mongoloids who are still colonized... ?
中国对于被压迫的印度黄种人的政策是什么呢?
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Me:think about Nepali,you would know the policy
想想尼泊尔,你就会明白中国的政策。
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CCC:as for the nepalese... i think ther are mixed
with Caucasian and Mongoloid blood....
you see, nepal used to be the only hindu country ...
关于尼泊尔人,我想他们也是混血。
白人和黄种人的混血
你知道,尼泊尔曾经是唯印度教国家。
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Me:for some degree ,yes
某种程度上,是的
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CCC:but they have understand thet hindu is not their identity and so they are now Maoist
不过现在他们明白印度教不是他们所要的了,他们现在变成了毛派。
what is that term indu imply?
Hindu derived frim Indu...

Me:I heard that they are vassal state of Tibet
我听说他们曾经是吐蕃帝国的属国。
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CCC:yes nepal was a vassal state of Tibet and so Nepal had links with China and not india...
religion cannot be the judge of history
hindu caucasians are very clever
they first spread their hindu mystic religion and then
later claim that the land which is hindu dominated is indian
是的,尼泊尔曾经是吐蕃帝国的属国,所以他们是中国一系的,不属于印度。
宗教不能成为历史传承的标竿。
印度白人很狡猾。
他们先传播他们的印度神秘宗教
然后,他们宣称印度教的地盘就是印度的地盘。
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Me:we are more clever ,haha
我们更狡猾,哈哈
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CCC: yes, ... i agree wholeheartedly...
没错,我举双手赞成。
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CCC:thus they occupied all the lands of northern india....
they could not do so in bhutan and nepal...
由此他们占据了北印度的所有土地。
他们在不丹和尼泊尔做不到这点。
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Me:we are peaceful before
我们以前比较和平。
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CCC:we are peaceful but you see those Caucasians are not peaceful.... they invaded Vietnam... but see the glory of mongoloid blood vietnam punched the Ameriacns
我们是和平,可你看到了白人可不和平,他们侵略越南,看看美国大兵怎样玷污越南人的。
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Me:yes
是的
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CCC:we must not forget our history, because if we forget, tomorrow our geography will change
我们不能忘记我们的历史,如果我们忘记了,明天我们的地盘就变色了。
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Me:they can never perish history
他们永远也不能消灭历史。
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CCC:And also we should not allow our women to marry caucasians.... because today many casucasians marry our women and pollute our blood...
we need to counter them by marrying their women also
so that we can mongolize with equal effect
otherwise will be an extinct race
like the Red Indians of America and Austroloids of Australia
所以我们不能允许我们的女人和白人结婚,因为现在很多白人和我们的女人结婚,玷污了我们的血统。(汗,我持保留意见,如果为爱情结婚我是可以理解的)
反过来我们应该和他们的女人结婚。
这样我们就能和他们达到平衡
否则种族会被灭绝。
就像美洲印第安人和澳洲土著一样。
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Me:yes,America Indians,what a massacre
是啊,美洲印度安人,大屠杀。
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Me:but you must perish casty system at first
我们应该先消灭种姓制度
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CCC:none can perish the caste system as long as there will survive the Hinduism
没人能消灭种姓制度只要印度教还存在
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CCC:let me tell you what the caste system is...
Hindusim is like Confucianism...
its a poison..
if you become a hindu, you need to be ascribed a certain social ranking
according to your physical feature and occupation...
now if you do not belong to the catse then you are not a hindu at all
you must have a caste idenity if you are a hindu
我告诉你什么是种姓制度,印度教像儒教。(我保留意见,他恐怕不太了解儒教)
这是一种毒药,如果你成为印度教徒,你就被赋予某个社会阶级的角色。
根据你的外貌特征和职业。
如果你不属于某个阶级,你就完全不是印度教徒,
如果你是印度教徒,你必须有个种姓标志
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CCC:the or Hindu Caucasians once offered the british or english people to become hindus..
and offered them the caste identity Sakya Seni rajput...
the English however rejected the offer...
婆罗门和印度白人曾经想给予英国人印度教角色
给予他们高种姓身份
英国人拒绝了
i know the history of confucianism... hinduism is worse than that...
我知道儒教的历史,印度教比儒教更坏。
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Me:that is bad,confucianisn is peaceful
harmony is the core idea of Confucianism
真糟糕,儒教是平和的
和谐是儒教思想的核心
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CCC:but hinduism is not peaceful at all.... and there is no harmony... they burn their dead bodies.... widows... practice dowry system... all the gods hold fatal weapons in their hands...
印度教一点也不平和,没有和谐,他们烧他们的尸体、寡妇,嫁妆制度(注,印度和中国截然相反,中国人结婚大头是男方出彩礼,印度人结婚大头是女方出嫁妆,昂贵的嫁妆折磨的印度女方家庭很苦),所有的神都拿着可怕的兵器。
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Me:so,our saint is clever than their’s at all
所以,我方的圣人比他们的聪明多了
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CCC:yes...
he he he
and above all hindus are racists...
they call the Mongoloid people Chinkis....
because they dont look like them...
是啊,哈哈哈,除了以上,印度教是种族主义歧视的。
他们把黄种人称为Chinkis,因为他们不喜欢
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Me:but Confucianism said it’s honorable to fight unfair
儒教认为反抗非正义是光荣的。
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CCC:in hinduism Kautilya was there who said ahy unfair attemt to destry the enemy is valid
and another notorious racist Hindu preacher is Manu... who ordered the Caucasians to kill all other races....
i will send you the Manusmritic propaganda...
印度教的老K说什么什么非正义的消灭敌人是正当的
另外一个臭名昭著的印度教大牛老M,他号召白种人杀死所以其他种族。
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Me:so,they are enemy of people and god
那么,他们就是人民和天理的敌人
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CCC:yes... if you stay a few days with the hindus in india you will see how hostile the hindus are to other races...
but they are very clever and they use their media to send some false wrong message to the world
the western people are now collectively coming to india and get converted to hinduism...
是啊,如果你跟印度教徒呆在一起几天,你就会看到印度教对其他种族是多么的敌视了。
但是他们非常狡猾,他们用他们的媒体散布错误的信息到全世界。
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Me:Mao alway emphise on Propaganda as well as fight
老毛总是强调宣传和斗争一样重要。
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CCC:they will be victimized soon...
we must build up counter propaganda....
他们就要欺骗了
我们需要建立与之针锋相对的宣传力量。
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Me:yes
Mao said,who fight focous on fight,who proganda focous on proganda
是啊
老毛说过,打的只管打,谈的只管谈。
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CCC:and today after the Jewish-American lobby, there is Indian-American lobby...
do not forget the betrayal the Hindus did in 1962
Nehru had told hindi-chini bhai-bhai but later ordered the indian army to push forward...
除了现在的以色列-美国联盟,印度和美国也滚到一起去了。
不要忘记1962年印度教的背叛
尼赫鲁曾经说过中国印度一家人啥啥的,后来他却命令军队前进。
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Me:we always watch them
我们一直警惕他们
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CCC:and Saitan Singh another bastard killed all the Chinese prisoners of war brutally...
Saitan Singh was an indian army officer
还有老S这个婊子养的残暴的杀死了所以的中国战俘。
老S是印度高级将领
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Me:a devil
魔鬼
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CCC:yes... China later released all the Indian war of Prisoners....
but if it had been india in stead of China, it would have never do that...
China also returned all the captured tanks and weapons...
to india...
Indian wanted to capture Tibet as a buffer state...
still india is giving shelter to the Tibetan conspirator Dalai Lama...
now india is planning to rebuild Akhanda Bharat or greater India which includes Tibet...
是的,中国后来释放了所有中印战争中的战俘,
如果是印度的话,他们压根不会有这么好
印度想拿西藏作为他们的缓冲国
印度仍然给予达赖这个叛徒隐藏所
现在印度计划建立包括西藏的大印度帝国
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Me:I know,dalai lama is a turncoat
haha,let them come,and lose another war
我知道,达赖是个叛徒
哈哈,让他们来,再胖揍他们一顿。

CCC:Dalai Lama was a dictator... he forced his blind subjects to eat his dried shits... can you imagine?
yes.... I know indians cannot fight the Chinese red army...
but india is seeking help from America...
达赖是个独裁者,他强迫他的瞎子被试者(是否类似日军731部队的“马路达”)吃他风干的屎,你能想象吗?
是的,你知道,印度人是打不过红色中国的军队的
不过印度在寻求美国的帮助

Me:I know in some degree,mao had try to comfort him,but he is not very smart indeed
我知道一些,老毛曾经试着安抚他,不过达赖可不怎么聪明。

CCC:yes.... in 1962 india sought American help....
是的,1962年印度就寻求美国帮助了

Me:without US,they cann’t even think it
没有美国帮助他们想都不敢于想。

CCC:why should you seek another western aggressor country’s help if you cant fight alone?
yes American whites are the illegitimate fathers of indians...
india is a sanke in south Asia...
就是啊,居然找另外一个西方侵略者帮忙,有种单挑啊。
美国白人是印度人的干爹,
印度是南亚的蛇

Me:US and USSR all back up India in 1962,they are all loser
美国和苏联在1962年都支持了印度,他们仨都是失败者。

CCC:it always try to prosper at the cost of other neighbouring countries...
yes... that is why I do not trust Russia... though Russia helped China in some cases...
他们总是想通过损害邻居使自己发达
是啊,我不太信任俄国,虽然俄国也曾经帮助过中国。

Me:but this make them forget the strongth of themselves
depending is deveil in mao’s eyes
不过这样他们就忘记了应该依靠自己的力量,
依赖就是毒药,在老毛眼里

CCC:one of our traitor is Japan... and Japan paid for what Japan did in nanking...
you know in Japan the society is breaking down... the Jap family system is declining....
because Japan blindly followed its master the west...
我们还有一个叛徒是日本,日本为南京大屠杀付出了他们的代价
你知道日本社会在走下坡路,日本家庭系统在减少,
因为他们盲目的听从他们的主人西方

Me:they are under the power of US,poor nation,but they are evil if they don’t self-reflection
we can take care of Japan if there are no US,haha
他们处于美国的占领下,可怜的国家,如果他们不反省的话他们还是邪恶的。
如果没有美国,我们可以“照顾”好日本。哈哈

CCC:this US is the curse on this planet.... everywhere they do whatever they want to do... now US is planning to encircle China.... with the help of India...
never trust these snakes... if we trust them they will bite us...
美国是这个星球的毒瘤,每个地方他们想做什么就做什么,现在美国企图包围中国,在印度的帮助下。
永远不要相信蛇,如果我们相信它,它就会咬我们

Me:but they are in trouble now,haha
不过他们现在有麻烦了,哈哈

CCC:yes... thats very good...
can US pay the debt to China?
是啊,很好
美国还的起中国的债务吗?

Me:haha
their leader is a black now,let’s watch what will happen
哈哈,
他们现在有个黑人领导人,让我们看看会发生什么事情。

CCC:yes... this is indeed an opportunity to do favor to ourselves... ha ha
that black can do nothing magical....
是啊,这对我们是好机会,哈哈
黑人是变不出魔术的

Me:some Chinese bet Obama would be assassinated in this years
一些中国人打赌奥巴马会被暗杀

CCC:i guess so.... like Kenedy...
yes... if it ever happens then there will be a political turmoil... and China should cash that situtaion...
我猜也是,像肯尼迪
是啊,如果这样的事情发生了,他们就会发生政治骚乱,中国才能平衡局势。

Me:maybe Mexico, Venezuela,Cube will rise in some degree
可能墨西哥的地位在某种程度上会提升

CCC:yes Mexico and Venezuela.... they are oppressed by US economic aggression...
yes... ha ha ... this is very crucial time we have now... very interesting...
do you have any influence in Chinese political environment?
是啊,墨西哥和委内瑞拉,他们一直被美国的经济侵略压制
是啊,哈哈,这是个非常关键的时期,很有意思
你在中国有政治影响力吗

Me:no,I’m common citizen
没有,我是普通公民

CCC:me too... well but are you not interested in politics?
我也是,你不是对政治很感兴趣吗?

Me:there are thousands of citizens like me in China
in fact,I like history most
we care about out nation,and love our nation,and will discuss something important automatically
在中国有成千上万像我这样的人
实际上,我更喜欢历史
我们关心我们的国家,爱我们的国家,我们会自动的对一些重要的事情进行讨论。

CCC:really...? how nice..!! you are very lucky...
真的吗?很好,你真是幸运

Me:yes,I think so,but there are many people really better than me,make me envy.haha
是啊,我也这样认为,不过确实有很多人比我更强,让我嫉妒,哈哈。

CCC:ok... ha ha ha....
哈哈

CCC:ok... its natural.... yes then you can at least write some articles on history ....
so that those articles can create a mass reaction .....
好,你至少可以写些历史方面的文章
这些文章可以对大众产生一些影响

Me:what about you language,I mean spoken by masses
are the seven sisters use same language?
你们用什么语言,我是说你们的人民大众
“七姐妹”用的是同样的语言吗?

CCC:yes ... india is mutilingual... though the official language is Hindi, a baby of Sanskrit....
no... they do not even use the Indian national flag...
是,印度是多语言的,虽然官方语言是印地语,梵文的小宝宝。
不,他们甚至不用印度国旗(参考台湾)

Me:what
啥

CCC:they do not speak any aryan language...
yes you do not know man...
thats what i was telling you man....
they have parallel government system....
they have their own government which does not belong to the indian governemtn...
他们不说雅利安语言
是的,你不知道这些
这些就是我要告诉你的,朋友
他们有平行的政府系统
他们有自己的政府,不属于印度政府。

Me:how about taxation
税收呢?

CCC:well, that is also clooected by their own government and army.... the naga army is not indian army....
for example...
也是由他们的政府和军队征收,那加军队不是印度军队。

Me:interesting
有点意思

CCC:i mean the tax was collected by their own govt officials....
still the tax is collected that way...
我是说,税收是由他们自己的政府官员征收。
现在还是这样

Me:how much would they send to Indian government
他们要上交多少给印度政府呢

CCC:they have to send some amount.... but indian govt cannot force them to give more.... and if you go to Ngaland for example, you will notice an indian govt office and a Naga govt office standing side by6 side
actually India tried to capture the Nagaland territory killing thousands of Mongoloids.... but they failed and declared a ceasefire...
in Manipur, that is also same....
you can hear some insurgent activities in Assam also.... frequent bobm blasts and all these types of acts...
so North east is like second Kashmir...
North East is not India....
its only occupied by India......
他们不得不上交一部分,不过印度政府榨取不了更多,如果你去那加兰邦,你会发现印度政府办公楼和那加政府办公楼比肩而立。
在曼尼普尔邦,也是一样的,
你在阿萨姆邦还会听到起义运动,经常性的爆炸事件或者类似事件
所以,东北部和克什米尔一样,
东北部是不属于印度的。
它只是被印度占领

CCC:yes... but in Manipur a one of our women, Manorama Thangzham was brutally raped by indian army and them they shot several bullets from AK 47 to her vagina so that there would be no forensic investigation....
but all our women protested that by making a naked rally in front of the indian army barrack...
是的,在曼尼普尔邦,一个我们的妇女小M被印度军队残暴的强奸了,然后他们向她的阴道射入几颗AK47子弹,这样就不用担心法院调查了。
但是我们的妇女抗议此事,她们举行了裸体集会在印度军营前面。

Me:devil indeed,I should tell Chinese about that
真正的魔鬼,我会告诉中国人这些事情

CCC:in india our brothers are the most victimized people... nobody can hear their voice... and that is why ia ma so angry with the indian state
please write about it... tell them.... it will form a mass mobilization....
i will send you every material i get....
在印度,我们的兄弟是最可怜的人民,没有人能听到他们的声音,这就是为什么我对印度政府非常愤怒。
请你告诉他们,这样会形成人民运动
我会送你所有我拥有的材料。

Me:are you safe for send this to me
你这样做是安全的吗?

CCC:well... the Raw is very notorious.... I know... but I will use internet and also I will try to visit China once.... I must do something.... this is my duty....
If indians kill me, i will be a martyr....
材料是很臭名昭著的,我知道,我会使用网络,我会找机会去中国看看。我必须做些事情,这是我的责任
如果印度人杀了我,我就成为烈士

Me:I mean i am safe,are you going to be arrested if they know about what you did
我是说,我在这儿是安全的,你会因为你做的这些事情被捕吗?

CCC:but someone has to pay for it....
they will not only arrest me, they will execute me by a fake encounter as they always do.... but if i dont do this then who will do?
有些人必须付出代价
他们不仅仅会逮捕我,还会处死我,假装一个意外,他们总是这样做,不过如果我不做谁做呢?

Me:every hero is precious,we should do the works,but we should try be clever
每个英雄都是宝贵的,我们应该做些事情,但是我们应该有策略

CCC:yes... i will listen to your advice and suggetions.... brother...
是的,我会听从你的忠告和建议,兄弟

Me:there are many martyrs in Chinese revolution,believe me,we should have be clever
could they find your ID?
中国革命中牺牲了很多烈士,相信我,我们本来应该更聪明些
他们能找到你的ID吗?

CCC:if they want they can... even the IP
如果他们想这么做的话他们能够办到,甚至IP

Me:take care yourself
照顾好你自己

CCC:thanks.... brother....
ok... are you going to leave now?
谢谢,兄弟
好的,你要走了吗?

Me:not yet,if you want to talk,we talk
还没有,如果你想谈话,我们就谈话

CCC:thanks....
we can make a difference.... ordinary people can do the most ordinary things....
we have some obligations to our race and our heritage....
我们可以改变,普通人可以做普通的事情
我们有责任为我们的种族和传统做些事情

Me:yes

CCC:we must not avoid what we are supposed to do...
you know only a few days ago one university has been build in North East...
我们不能逃避我们该做的事情
你知道,只是在前不久,东北部才建立了一所大学

Me:I real don’t know there are so much suffering on you people before
我真的不知道你们的人民以前受了那么多苦难。

CCC:but before that no university and colleges were there to pursue higher study....
在此之前那里没有机会读大学

Me:who build the college,Indian government or local government
谁建立了那所大学,印度政府还是当地政府

CCC:the north eastern people are christians... and its only due to the effoert of those Christian missionaries that some missionary schools are there to study school education
its a policy of the indian government to penetrate there into the Mongoloid society... because otherwise there will be battle ground....
东北部人民是基督徒,这些只是基督教团体的努力,基督徒才能才能接受教育。
印度政府对当地的政策是渗透,否则那里就是战场

Me:your people should call for more right.by both praganda and fight
你们的人民应该呼吁更多的权利,通过宣传和斗争两种手段。

CCC:now before the building of the university, if any of our women came to Indian cities for university education, she would never get any residence to stay, no social security as local caucasians try to molest her, rape her, and if she ever go to the police, the police will rape her... many instances are there...
indian army killed almost all Naga, Bodo and Manipuri boys....
在那所大学建立之前,如果我们的妇女到印度城市去上大学,她们不可能找到居所,没有安全,白人会调戏她,强奸她,如果她去找警察,经常也会强奸她,很多例子
印度军队杀死了几乎所有的那加、Bodo、曼尼普尔男子

Me:what
when
啥,
什么时候

CCC:yes.... as a result now women are bigger in number than men....
in the past years....
i will give you all the documents...
是的,结果就是,那里的女性比男性多
在以前
我会给你所有资料

Me:ok

CCC:its like Kashmir...
another Kashmir.... where 85000 men have been killed by indian army...
就像克什米尔
另一个克什米尔,那里有85000男子被印度军队杀害了

Me:oh,no
汗

CCC:thats why here is so much terorism... China’s govt does not know that....
Now in Sri Lanka the Sri Lankan army is likking all Tamils ..
and Indian army is actually killing them
实际上是印度军队在杀害他们
这就是为什么这里有这么多恐怖活动,中国政府不知道这些
现在斯里兰卡军队正在消灭所有泰米尔人

Me:Chinese people hear little about these
中国人民对此所知甚少

CCC: Who killed Rajiv Gandhi?
A Tamil woman....
你知道谁杀了拉吉夫.甘地吗?
一个泰米尔女性

Me:Tamil?
泰米尔人?

CCC:Yes,.... a Tamil woman... who was a member of LTTE
not a Muslim....
是的,一个泰米尔女性,猛虎组织成员,不是穆斯林

Me:you mean Tamil are ally of us?
你是说泰米尔人是我们的盟友?

CCC:Their objective is as same as of ours.... they are fighting for their cultural idenity, language and ethnicity... they are not aryans or brown caucasians they are indian negroids...
他们的目标和我们一样,他们为自己的文化、语言、种族而战,他们不是白人,他们是黑人。

Me:oh

CCC:You know India was a floating Isalnd which after separating from Australia about 100 million yreas ago, came to the Tethis ocean and collided with Asia about 50 million years ago....and gave birth to Himalayas....
你知道,印度曾经是个漂移的大岛,1亿年前从澳洲分离,漂过古蒂狄斯海,5000万年前与亚洲大陆相撞,然后产生了喜马拉雅山脉。

Me:yes

CCC:there had been the Austric race already, Negroids came after that from Africa and then we Mongoloids entered to India and together with the three races built the Indus valley civilisations...
because recent excavation in Indus civilisation has revealed that all the skulls found there belong to Mongoloid, Negroid and Austroloid people
那里本来已经有了澳洲土著种族,黑人从非洲来,我们黄种人也进入了,这三个种族一起建立了古代印度河流域的文明。
因为最近关于印度河文明的遗址挖掘显示了,所有的那里的头骨都属于黄种人、黑人和澳洲土著人。

Me:yes

CCC:then much after that Caucasians came to India and started progessing towards the east alongside the Ganges river....
but historically this land was never the Aryan land...
they now tell some false propaganda ....
很晚以后,白人来到印度,开始占领东北恒河流域,
历史上,这里从来不是雅利安人的地盘
现在他们在进行虚假的宣传。

Me:what

CCC:yes....they have brainwashed the subjugated races so that they will never reclaim their land....
so Mongoloids are not only victimized but also the Austrics...
if you come to India, you can ask an illiterate Santhal about it he will tell you the same version I am now telling you...
we all know.... but we are still colonized....
so the Aryan mythology is a mere propaganda....
是的,他们在给被压迫的种族洗脑,这样这些人就永远不会提出拿回他们的土地了。
所以,不仅黄种人是被压迫者,澳洲土著人种也是
如果你来到印度,你可以问一个文盲Santhal这些事情,他也会告诉你同样的故事,像我今天说的

Me:there should be voice of your people,and send to the world
应该出现你们人民的声音,传播向全世界

CCC:yes.... but to counter a military force, there must a another military force... because a pen is not enough to liberate the people, so besides a pen there must be a sword...
是啊,不过反抗一只军队,必须用另一支军队,仅仅靠笔是解放不了人民的,所以在笔旁边必须有剑。

Me:yes,sometimes,pen is more sharp than sword.
有些时候,笔比剑更加锋利。

CCC:yes... for a long term effect.... but for an immediate effect sword is necessary....
是的,从长远来说,不过目前来说剑是更重要的

Me:never lay down your sword,and take up another weapon—pen
不要放下你们的剑,再拿起另外一件武器——笔

CCC:yes... right...

Me:we have two hands,Mao always tell us
老毛总是告诉我们,我们有两只手

CCC:ok.... one hand will hold a pen and the other a sowrd....
好的,一手剑一手笔

Me:that is the way mao win the China
这就是老毛赢得中国的办法

CCC:Yes the glorious Long March and the cultural revolution....
是的,光荣的长征和文化大革命(我持保留意见)

Me:even early, a Saint indeed
其实更早,一个真正的圣人

CCC:a saint..... a social engineer....
一个圣人,一个社会工程师

Me:haha

CCC:ha ha ha Mao is in my heart.... in out hearts....
哈哈,毛主席在我心中,也在你心中

Me:he is good at philosophy of how to fight
他很懂得斗争的哲学

CCC:indeed....
没错

Me:Chinese don’t believe in god, but believe in Saint,such as Mao and Confucius
中国人不信仰神,但是信仰圣人,比如老毛和孔子

CCC:ok.... what do you think of Buddhism? To me its a dubious religion. a diplomatic version of hinduism...
好,你对佛教怎么看,对我来说是个可疑的宗教,一个印度教的另外版本。

Me:I heard there are battle between Buddhism and Hinuism in acient
我听说佛教和印度教在古代发生过激烈斗争
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CCC:yes... there might have been a battle....
是的,也许有过斗争

Me: there are three mainly religions in ancient China
Confucianism,Buddhism and Daoism
Confucinism is the core in most time
do you know why?
在中国古代有三种主要宗教。
儒、道、释
多数情况下儒教是核心,
你知道为什么吗?

CCC:not exactly...
tell me please..
不太清楚,
请告诉我

Me:because the emperor and minister love Confucinism
Buddhism alway make trouble for empire.Taoism do nothing good or bad to empire
因为朝廷最喜欢儒教
佛教总是给朝廷制造麻烦(参考“三武灭佛”),道教对朝廷没有好处也没什么坏处。
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CCC:ohh yes... the emperor...
but Confucianism badly treated the women....
是的,朝廷,
但是儒教压迫妇女
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Me:that’s sorrow,but all nation in ancient world drive up men
I think it must for the reason of war
很遗憾,不过古代世界所有国家的男性都高一等
我想这是因为战争
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CCC:yes... thats true... in all civilisations....
yes... war....
i say it the clash of civilisations...
and clash of cultures...
是啊,确实,所以文明
战争
我说这是文明的冲突
文化的冲突

Me:there are more war in ancient world,men die,women were captured
and they are weak when facing weapon
and there are more women than men,because many men die
古代战争更加频繁,男人战死,女人被俘
她们面对武器是弱者
女人比男人多,因为很多男人死了
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CCC:yes.... even in some ancient societies.... i read in Will Durant’s Story of Civilisations... people who got victory used to eat the flesh of captured women and children..
是的,在一些古代社会,我看了一本书维尔杜伦关于文明的故事,战胜的人经常吃掉被俘妇女和孩子的肉。
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作者:hantao75 时间:2009-02-18 17:59:51
  让我们了解很多东西啊!!!!! 顶啊!!!!!
作者:门松 时间:2009-02-18 18:09:22
  佛教,也只能诞生在这样苦难的土地了,印度贱民为什么知道不起义呢?真是个被神诅咒的国家……
作者:猫道长 时间:2009-02-18 18:35:42
  顶一下。
作者:空谈兴国 时间:2009-02-18 19:05:51
  这贴太好了!!!
  很有意思,这样的纪实再多也不为多。
作者:niuzhirong 时间:2009-02-18 19:25:59
  作者:门松 回复日期:2009-02-18 18:09:22 
    佛教,也只能诞生在这样苦难的土地了,印度贱民为什么知道不起义呢?真是个被神诅咒的国家……
  
  
  佛教是诞生于尼泊尔的好不好,印度的主要宗教是印度教。
  
  印度人民的起义者就是“毛派武装力量”。
作者:wyhsillypig 时间:2009-02-18 19:27:59
  逐字逐句地看过了,帮助楼主顶贴。
作者:砍砍伐檀兮02 时间:2009-02-18 19:34:51
  真是一篇非常别致的文章.
  喜欢
  
  
  
作者:forumdiver 时间:2009-02-18 19:47:41
  印度半岛需要一场革命。
作者:有丶小小强 时间:2009-02-18 20:32:25
  这就是传说的印度毛派??
楼主埃涅阿斯 时间:2009-02-18 20:41:03
  谢谢各位捧场,如可以的话请多转载,显然CCC是希望通过中国人民的渠道发出他们民族的声音。中国网民的力量不是盖的。
  
  从一些交流中,我发现有些问题,印度毛派一个精神领袖是毛主席,但是还有个精神上非常崇敬的人是成吉思汗。应该说可能是民族、种姓压迫太甚了,致使他们极为崇敬这些能打的黄种人领袖,幻想着以血还血,以牙还牙。只要谁最狠最强,而且是黄种人,他们就崇敬。
  
  另一方面,我个人感觉他们的力量太分散了,民族太多,语言太多,很不容易形成统一的力量,无论在斗争上还是宣传上,这些都是非常不利的因素。应该庆幸,古老中华文明留给了我们统一的民族认同感、同样的文字,使得我们可以方便的团结起来,争取胜利。
  
  有基础的同学有空多上上外网,不但练习英语,又能发现很多有意思的事情。巴基斯坦网站我觉得是首选,不仅因为他跟我们是盟国。对我们特别友好,而且因为他们地处穆斯林世界、中国、印度、俄国、美国西方这五个地球最强势力的争夺中心。啥人都有,观点全面。
  
作者:牛皮大鼓 时间:2009-02-18 21:03:22
  留名
作者:稻穗飘香 时间:2009-02-18 21:26:43
  支持楼主
作者:落花起作回风舞 时间:2009-02-18 21:31:57
  作者:门松 回复日期:2009-02-18 18:09:22 
    佛教,也只能诞生在这样苦难的土地了,印度贱民为什么知道不起义呢?真是个被神诅咒的国家……
  ====================
  这世界大部分文化中。贱民都不会起义,中国文化是个例外……
作者:weggfgh123 时间:2009-02-18 21:33:18
  印度人民的起义者就是“毛派武装力量”。
  
作者:greattj 时间:2009-02-18 21:43:44
  这哥们相当博学
作者:血奔心 时间:2009-02-18 21:51:36
  我们应该支持他们的革命事业!!
作者:对_你说的都对 时间:2009-02-18 21:56:24
  
  首先要学会区分敌人与朋友
  
  然后这里有个朋友,我们就支持他
  
  打赌会有JY跳出来说这是伪造的的
作者:再闵 时间:2009-02-18 21:59:19
  留名
作者:nikko1216 时间:2009-02-18 21:59:50
  就当练练英语,全都看完了,没想到印度原来也是个先天的分裂国家,好!!
作者:sdhotline 时间:2009-02-18 22:46:18
  作者:落花起作回风舞 回复日期:2009-02-18 21:31:57 
    作者:门松 回复日期:2009-02-18 18:09:22 
      佛教,也只能诞生在这样苦难的土地了,印度贱民为什么知道不起义呢?真是个被神诅咒的国家……
    ====================
    这世界大部分文化中。贱民都不会起义,中国文化是个例外……
  
  
  ----------------
  中国有什么贱民?奴婢?长工?
作者:落花起作回风舞 时间:2009-02-18 22:49:52
  作者:sdhotline 回复日期:2009-02-18 22:46:18 
    作者:落花起作回风舞 回复日期:2009-02-18 21:31:57 
      作者:门松 回复日期:2009-02-18 18:09:22 
        佛教,也只能诞生在这样苦难的土地了,印度贱民为什么知道不起义呢?真是个被神诅咒的国家……
      ====================
      这世界大部分文化中。贱民都不会起义,中国文化是个例外……
    
    
    ----------------
    中国有什么贱民?奴婢?长工?
  
  =====================
  那两个人没告诉你吗?
  
作者:sdhotline 时间:2009-02-18 22:57:01
  古代奴婢也有自己的权益,法律有规定。卖身为奴的不在少数。
  自己没有土地,去打工帮别人干活做长工,不是很正常吗?
  
  只有像黑砖窑那样抢来的奴隶,才最黑暗。但那显然是不合法的
作者:sdhotline 时间:2009-02-18 23:01:01
  卖身为奴干满多少年,或者用多少钱也可以赎回。换句话说,古代的奴婢、长工这些并不是固定的身份,因为没钱才沦为奴婢、长工。有钱你也可以当地主。和印度的贱民是不同的概念。
  
  印度的贱民何毛时代的农民、地主后代很像,是一种固定的身份。当然,农民还有一定的机会变成工人、共产党干部。但是地主后代是难以摆脱的。
作者:河洛张三 时间:2009-02-18 23:50:03
  好资料。
作者:sykszx 时间:2009-02-19 00:15:27
  不错的谈话记录
作者:LOLI的LOLI 时间:2009-02-19 00:18:45
  除了藏传佛教,现在中国大部分地区的佛教其实早就已经慢慢的和中原文化融合,与其说是宗教还不如说是种处世的人生哲学,很平和了
作者:solamiso 时间:2009-02-19 00:21:14
  大多数中国妇女是好的。(说这话有点心虚)
  ============
  有病!中国妇女有什么可让你心虚的!真tmd装
作者:风云涌 时间:2009-02-19 01:04:49
  支持他们革命,好让印度东北几个邦独立出来
作者:科大胡不归 时间:2009-02-19 01:59:12
  哪里有压迫,哪里就有反抗!革命无罪,造反有理!为自由而奋斗的人民万岁!毛主席万岁!
作者:elam1977 时间:2009-02-19 03:26:56
  震撼啊,一定要留名
  
  果然,印度人从来善于把自己打扮成受害者,其实他们一直是侵略者,而且欺软怕硬,又喜欢耍无赖
作者:蓝色光弦 时间:2009-02-19 07:07:55
  支持楼主,支持印度人民的民主革命!支持印度穷苦百姓早日翻身得解放!期待印度东北部回归中华!
作者:马杀鹰 时间:2009-02-19 08:33:12
  很好的资料
作者:zzztr 时间:2009-02-19 08:46:09
  楼主有点狐假虎威了,干嘛言必提老毛
作者:Lina_Invers 时间:2009-02-19 08:53:56
  印度东北部是汉藏民族的发源地
  所以他们虽然靠近印度,但对中国认同高点.
作者:qchlei 时间:2009-02-19 09:00:18
  如果把这印度东北不哥们换作疆独分子,藏独分子呢???
  
  我们会不会认为中国要崩溃????
  
  不过,我们的民族政策对少数民族更有利,不像这哥们描述的恐怖的印度。
作者:马杀鹰 时间:2009-02-19 09:03:02
  作者:zzztr 回复日期:2009-02-19 08:46:09 
    楼主有点狐假虎威了,干嘛言必提老毛
  ==============================
  对方是毛主义者,楼主不跟人家提老毛,难道跟人家提三个代表?
楼主埃涅阿斯 时间:2009-02-19 10:16:48
     CCC:so it is now Afpak...
  in Swat valley...
  现在是Swat山谷的Afpak
  
   Me:yes,what happen there
  那里发生了什么事情
  
   CCC:the western media says it is Afpak in Swat valley of Pakistan....
   because Taliban has got the victory... or Pak army surrendered to the Taliban...
   western propaganda...
  西方媒体说巴基斯坦Swart山谷中的Afpak
  因为塔利班赢得了胜利,或者巴基斯坦向塔利班屈服了
  西方宣传
  
   Me:joke, how could they surrendered to Taliban
  开玩笑吧,他们怎么可能向塔利班屈服?
  
   CCC:actually the Swat valley has been under Taliban control for years... but this Taliban group is not the Afghan Taliban....
   no surrender...
   just the Pak govt allowed the local Taliban leaders to practice shariya...
   and close down women’s schools...
   internet cafes and other western cultural centres...
   like CD shops...
   cinema halls...
  实际上塔利班控制Swat山谷很多年了,不过这些塔利班不是阿富汗塔利班。
  不是屈服
  是巴基斯坦政府允许塔利班领导人实行shariya(可能是某种原教旨主义)
  关闭妇女学校,网吧,以及其他西方文化中心,比如CD商店,电影院
  
   Me:what’s the response of Pak govt
  巴基斯坦政府的反应是什么
  
   CCC:now the Afghan Taliban is under the leadership of Bahtulla Masud...
   Pak govt is ok with that...
   Pak govt is either helpless or it is a good strategy of the Pak govt to cope with Indian aggression...
   I think they made a passage along Pakistan’s western border for the Taliban to join Let and then fight for Kashmir....
  阿富汗塔利班现在是在老B的领导下
  巴基斯坦政府说OK
  巴基斯坦政府没办法或者这样也可以用来对付印度的侵略
  我想他们制造一个通道在巴基斯坦西部边界,让塔利班加入LET参与克什米尔战争
  
   Me:it may be better if they hide in Kashmir
  如果他们藏身在克什米尔更好
  
   CCC:yes... i hope they do so...
   its a good decision...
   now if they fight pitched battle against indian army in Kashmir...
  是啊,我也喜欢他们这样
  这是个好决定
  如果他们跳过起跟印度军队在克什米尔作战的话
  
   Me:maybe
  也许
  
   CCC:it will be justified in the eyes of the world...
   because the Kashmir issue must be solved...
  这样在世界的眼中才是公正的
  因为克什米尔问题必须解决
  
   Me:is there any Kashmir fighter?
  存在克什米尔抵抗组织吗?
  
   CCC:in Kashmir Kashmiri Mujahideens are already fighting for freedom...
   along with LET...
  克什米尔的KM组织已经在为克什米尔自由而战了,和LET一起
  
   me: but they are weak before,aren’t they?
  他们以前是不是很弱?
  
   CCC:yes they are still weak.... they have to fight against indian military establishment....
  是的,他们仍然很弱,他们不得不袭击印度军队的设施
  
   Me:I always doubt,where could they get weapons or other things
  我一直不明白他们从哪里弄到武器和其他东西
  
   CCC:well, I think US wants a war between Pakistan and India... so that it can sell some arms to them in this economic hard times....
  我想美国希望巴基斯坦和印度发生战争,这样他们就能卖军火给他们,在这个经济困难的时候
  
   Me:do you think US want to retreat some army from Afghan
  你认为美国会从阿富汗撤出一部分军队吗
  
   CCC:well, obama is going to send 17000 army men to afghan
  奥巴马要向阿富汗增兵17000人
  
   CCC:in india after four months there will be an inflation because india’s reserve bank has already printed 67,000, 0000000.... so currency will be devalued...
  四个月以后印度将要发生通货膨胀,因为印度储备银行已经印了6700,0000,0000卢比,所以货币会大增(稍微算了一下这些钱相当于142亿美元,能够造成很大的通货膨胀吗?莫非这就是俄罗斯突然与中国达成协议,获得250亿美元贷款的原因,避免像印度这样狂印钞票?)
  
   Me:really?they are going to kill their economy
  真的吗,他们想毁掉他们的经济
  
   CCC:it is a good time to see the decline of this empire...
   just after the indian parliament election....
  这是个好时候见证这个帝国的衰落
  在印度国会大选后
  
   Me:when would the election begin?
  大选什么时候开始?
  
   CCC: in india the whole system is corrupted...
  印度的整个体制都是腐败的。
楼主埃涅阿斯 时间:2009-02-19 10:29:14
  作者:马杀鹰 回复日期:2009-02-19 09:03:02 
    作者:zzztr 回复日期:2009-02-19 08:46:09 
      楼主有点狐假虎威了,干嘛言必提老毛
    ==============================
    对方是毛主义者,楼主不跟人家提老毛,难道跟人家提三个代表?
  ===========
  谢谢马杀鹰。他们这些人的眼里,普遍来说,只有两个精神领袖。一个是毛主席,一个是成吉思汗,我说过了,可能因为压迫太甚,他们就是特别渴望那种特别能打的黄种人领袖。我想我还是跟他谈毛主席好些,成吉思汗我持保留意见。
  
  事实上我对毛主席也是非常崇敬的,要不然跟他谈话我也不会对某些老毛的语录张开就来。毛主席干经济工作的水平那是是在不咋地,陈云才是大牛。但是毛主席搞斗争的水平,无论是笔斗还是剑斗,阴谋还是阳谋,那都是没说的,世界顶级。他适合需要解放的人民,不适合需要发展的人民,所以世界各地被压迫奴役的人民都特别崇敬他。
作者:weggfgh123 时间:2009-02-19 10:37:29
    事实上我对毛主席也是非常崇敬的,要不然跟他谈话我也不会对某些老毛的语录张开就来。毛主席干经济工作的水平那是是在不咋地,陈云才是大牛。但是毛主席搞斗争的水平,无论是笔斗还是剑斗,阴谋还是阳谋,那都是没说的,世界顶级。他适合需要解放的人民,不适合需要发展的人民,所以世界各地被压迫奴役的人民都特别崇敬他。
  ===============================
  陈云厉害 邓 小 平 的确不行 改革开放 已经走如了邪路了
作者:飘渺江湖 时间:2009-02-19 10:56:43
  继续贴啊
作者:司马无痕 时间:2009-02-19 11:03:37
  请继续!
作者:风大降温 时间:2009-02-19 11:11:22
  老调重弹:是不是缺了那两个人了?
作者:civicGT 时间:2009-02-19 12:40:59
  原来是这样。
  看来我国应该或明或暗的支持下印度东北部人民,嘎嘎
作者:angel-64 时间:2009-02-19 12:56:52
  世界各地非英语母语的人都用英语交流,
  什么时候才能用中文呢?
作者:从没被雷到 时间:2009-02-19 13:02:06
  坚决支持他们的民族独立斗争啊!
  
  他们独立后,中国政府和企业一定要对他们进行全方位的经济援助。让他们的人民生活水平高于印度。
作者:河洛张三 时间:2009-02-19 13:08:10
  楼主辛苦了。
作者:joune999 时间:2009-02-19 13:14:18
  本群大批量召集网络精英、愤青、网特、五毛等,本群提倡自由言论,自由博弈.....【网特、精英 VS 愤青、五毛】—高级辩论群(37358127) 欢迎打字快、思想活跃、有激情的能人志士加盟!(打字慢的别进,会被气死!过了这个村,没有这个店哦!)
  
作者:堵路讨薪 时间:2009-02-19 13:43:34
  咱们也在中国搞一个大兰萨拉,豢养这群印度毛派
作者:weggfgh123 时间:2009-02-19 13:43:59
   楼主辛苦了。
作者:扬子江仍在奔流 时间:2009-02-19 14:23:02
  楼上又有些吃里爬外的汉奸开始自诩公正,扯起藏独台独来了~~
  
  
  
  这种货色,实在不齿于人类
  
  
  
  我们对外就应当根据自己的民族利益出发,肢解印度对我们有莫大的好处,我们又何乐而不为呢??
  
  
  到时候就应当把那些叫嚣汉民族应该包容的人送到挥舞砍刀的维族、藏人那里去~~让他们在那里好好包容吧
作者:秋之白杨 时间:2009-02-19 14:51:57
  肢解印度,何乐而不为??
楼主埃涅阿斯 时间:2009-02-19 15:09:41
  作者:solamiso 回复日期:2009-02-19 00:21:14 
    大多数中国妇女是好的。(说这话有点心虚)
    ============
    有病!中国妇女有什么可让你心虚的!真tmd装
  ====================
  无他,就是担心假如他哪天真的来中国游历的时候,哪个不张眼的带他去了趟洗浴城之类的地方。不知他对中国女性纯洁美好的向往和敬仰会不会被雷翻。
作者:sdhotline 时间:2009-02-19 15:37:47
  同情被种姓制度摧残的印度人
作者:行者不惧 时间:2009-02-19 16:06:22
  难得好贴
  请继续
  另外,能给贴些图出来就更好了---地图,照片等等。
楼主埃涅阿斯 时间:2009-02-19 16:33:38
  巴基斯坦将实施伊斯兰教法以平息塔利班叛乱
  2009-02-18 09:28:26 来源: 中新网(北京) 跟帖 0 条 中新网2月18日电 据新加坡《联合早报》18日报道,巴基斯坦同意停止对一些西北部族地区的军事行动,和在当地实施伊斯兰教法,希望借此平息塔利班在当地的叛乱活动。
  
  美国防卫官员周一称停火协议是“不利的发展”,一些巴基斯坦专家也怀疑停火能减少暴力活动,人权专家认为协议是向激进分子“大投降”。
  
  而在首都伊斯兰堡,巴基斯坦新闻部长拉赫曼17日稍晚时否认停火协议是“让步”。
  
  拉赫曼说:“这绝不表示政府软弱,斯瓦特地区民众的愿望是所有努力的中心,在评价有关协议的优点时,应考虑到这点。”
  
  星期一达成的停火协议,适用于马拉根德(Malakand)专区,著名旅游地、号称“南亚瑞士”的斯瓦特河谷(Swat Valley)就在当地。自从前一份休战协定在去年8月破裂以后,塔利班分子通过斩首、烧毁女校和袭击保安部队等残酷手段,控制这一地区。
  
  政府希望斯瓦特河谷地区的伊斯兰教强硬分子现在能解除武装,拉赫曼坚持只有在当地恢复和平之后,总统扎尔达里才会批准协议生效。
  
  美国认为前一份协定让激进分子能重新组织和武装起来,并敦促巴政府集中使用军事手段对付前线地区的叛军,据说基地组织头目本-拉登就藏身这里。
  
  一名五角大楼高官说:“除了带来不利的发展,新协议什么也不是。”
  
  白宫发言人菲托尔后来说:“我们正就斯瓦特的局势变化跟巴基斯坦政府进行接触。”
  
  正在印度的总统奥巴马的南亚特使霍尔布鲁克,没有直接提及巴政府在马拉根德专区的和平努力,但他认为,在斯瓦特的塔利班势力增强就表明,美国、巴基斯坦和印度都面对着“直接威胁我们的领导、我们的首都和我们人民的共同敌人。”
  
  马拉根德专区官员跟当地伊斯兰教领袖会谈后,宣布了停火协议。 (本文来源:中新网 )
楼主埃涅阿斯 时间:2009-02-19 16:38:50
  巴基斯坦一国两制了。
作者:真天狼剑 时间:2009-02-19 16:43:49
  作者:落花起作回风舞 回复日期:2009-02-18 21:31:57 
    作者:门松 回复日期:2009-02-18 18:09:22 
      佛教,也只能诞生在这样苦难的土地了,印度贱民为什么知道不起义呢?真是个被神诅咒的国家……
    ====================
    这世界大部分文化中。贱民都不会起义,中国文化是个例外……
  ——————————————————————————————
  因为中国文化的特殊性决定了草根成驸马、屠夫当将军、乞丐做皇帝这样的事情只有中国才能发生。中国是世界上门第观念最薄弱的国家之一。
作者:ha_hn 时间:2009-02-19 17:18:14
  作者:扬子江仍在奔流 回复日期:2009-02-19 14:23:02 
    楼上又有些吃里爬外的汉奸开始自诩公正,扯起藏独台独来了~~
    
    
    
    这种货色,实在不齿于人类
    
    
    
    我们对外就应当根据自己的民族利益出发,肢解印度对我们有莫大的好处,我们又何乐而不为呢??  
    
    到时候就应当把那些叫嚣汉民族应该包容的人送到挥舞砍刀的维族、藏人那里去~~让他们在那里好好包容吧
  ===============================================
  印度人对待贱民,有像汉族对待少数民族这样吗?
  
  你怎么只会认为LZ是为了中国的私利,想要肢解印度?
作者:毒蕈薰风 时间:2009-02-19 17:18:29
  CCC:yes.... even in some ancient societies.... i read in Will Durant’s Story of Civilisations... people who got victory used to eat the flesh of captured women and children..
    是的,在一些古代社会,我看了一本书维尔杜伦关于文明的故事,战胜的人经常吃掉被俘妇女和孩子的肉。
  
  
  五胡乱华
  五胡乱华
  五胡乱华
作者:ha_hn 时间:2009-02-19 17:39:32
  CCC:but hinduism is not peaceful at all.... and there is no harmony... they burn their dead bodies.... widows... practice dowry system... all the gods hold fatal weapons in their hands...
  印度教一点也不平和,没有和谐,他们烧他们的尸体、寡妇,嫁妆制度(注,印度和中国截然相反,中国人结婚大头是男方出彩礼,印度人结婚大头是女方出嫁妆,昂贵的嫁妆折磨的印度女方家庭很苦),所有的神都拿着可怕的兵器。
  =============================================
  这应该是指印度教火葬的习俗
  
  另外,印度教有个神的腰围是一圈断手串起来当饰物。好象是因为这个神虽然邪恶,但力量强大,也被印度教徒信奉。所以,印度教也有点信奉力量强大者,而不像中国传统文化中,力量强大而邪恶的神怪向来是要被消灭的,人民从来不妥协。
作者:ha_hn 时间:2009-02-19 18:39:23
  CCC:yes... but in Manipur a one of our women, Manorama Thangzham was brutally raped by indian army and them they shot several bullets from AK 47 to her vagina so that there would be no forensic investigation....
  but all our women protested that by making a naked rally in front of the indian army barrack...
  是的,在曼尼普尔邦,一个我们的妇女小M被印度军队残暴的强奸了,然后他们向她的阴道射入几颗AK47子弹,这样就不用担心法院调查了。
  但是我们的妇女抗议此事,她们举行了裸体集会在印度军营前面。
  
  Me:devil indeed,I should tell Chinese about that
  真正的魔鬼,我会告诉中国人这些事情
  =========================================================
  我查到的有关这件事的报道http://www.boredguru.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=306
  
  这件事发生在2004年,7月10日发现受害者的尸体,死者是32岁的Thangjam Manorama。7月15日,一些40岁左右的女人在强奸者所在的联邦军军营门口裸体示威。 示威者领导之一的妇女还说,2003年有个15岁的女孩被士兵猥亵后自杀,事件也至今未公布调查结果
  
  在这篇报道中,还说有超过19分裂团体活跃在与缅甸接壤的曼尼普尔邦,在过去20年中有超过10000人丧生在叛乱活动中。
作者:马杀鹰 时间:2009-02-20 08:42:28
  推荐
作者:从没被雷到 时间:2009-02-20 09:05:45
  作者:真天狼剑 回复日期:2009-02-19 16:43:49 
    作者:落花起作回风舞 回复日期:2009-02-18 21:31:57 
      作者:门松 回复日期:2009-02-18 18:09:22 
        佛教,也只能诞生在这样苦难的土地了,印度贱民为什么知道不起义呢?真是个被神诅咒的国家……
      ====================
      这世界大部分文化中。贱民都不会起义,中国文化是个例外……
    ——————————————————————————————
    因为中国文化的特殊性决定了草根成驸马、屠夫当将军、乞丐做皇帝这样的事情只有中国才能发生。中国是世界上门第观念最薄弱的国家之一。
  ============================================================
  确实,就门第观念,印度就不说了。
  
  日本天皇千年一系,农村的土地市区铺面等等都是从N代人那里传下来的,非武士到明治维新了才有姓,可见其门第观念之重。
  
  欧洲更是几乎各层次贵族都是一系。比如A伯爵要是打仗把B伯爵的土地打下来了,B伯爵土地上的农民以及全欧其他与此事没有利益牵连的人都不会承认A伯爵对B伯爵土地的统治。除非A伯爵能证明自己是B伯爵爹地的小儿子。。。。欧洲各王室,姓不管怎么变,都不过是传女儿传侄子导致的变化。。。世袭观在欧洲深入人心。。。
  
  受欧洲影响的美国也是一样。世袭商业家族控制美国的经济。
  
  说来说去,还是中国人门第等级观最单薄。王侯将相宁有种乎?你今天看不起某个地位低下的人,说不定明天此人就爬到你头上了或是他儿子将来爬到你儿子头上。中国人都会抱着这种担心吧。呵呵
楼主埃涅阿斯 时间:2009-02-20 10:46:37
  中国魏晋南北朝的时候,士族和寒族的门第观念也是非常强烈的。
作者:马杀鹰 时间:2009-02-20 11:45:19
  作者:埃涅阿斯 回复日期:2009-02-20 10:46:37 
    中国魏晋南北朝的时候,士族和寒族的门第观念也是非常强烈的。
  ================关键还是科举
楼主埃涅阿斯 时间:2009-02-20 12:12:40
     CCC: well, in China are women larger in number than men?
  在中国女性比男性多吗?
  
   me: no,there are more men in China
   traditionly,people want boy
  不,男性更多
  传统上,人们都想要儿子
  
   CCC: very bad
  真是糟糕
  
  me: and there are one child policy
  还有独生子女政策
  
   CCC: still one child policy?
  还有独生子女政策?
  
   me: yes,but not strict yet
   you can have the second,but you may pay fine for it
  是的,不过已经不太严厉了
  你可以生第二个,不过要交罚款
  
   CCC: pay to the government..?
  交给政府?
  
   me: yes
  
   CCC: ok...
   is the population a big problem for China?
  人口在中国是个大问题吗
  
   me: it is before
   but now,it seemed the govt may loose it
  以前是的,不过现在看来政府要松开了
  
   CCC: ok...
   are Chinese women good?
   in their behaviour...?
  中国女性好吗
  就她们的表现来说
  
   me: as the case may be
   there are good one,ane there are bad one
  看情况
  有好的,有坏的
  
   CCC: ok....
  
   me: some of them are spoiled
  她们中有些人是被宠坏了的
  
   CCC: how???
   are they prostitutes?
  怎样的
  她们是妓女吗?
  
   me: some of them
  有些人是
  
   CCC: ok... are they poor people? why they have become prostitutes?
   do they want to earn more money?
  她们是穷人吗?为什么她们当妓女
  她们想要赚更多钱?
  
   me: in most case,they are poor
   yes
  多数情况下,她们是穷人
  是的
  
   CCC: still there are class differences?
  仍然有阶级差别
  
   me: no class
  but there are poor man and rich man
  没有阶级,
  不过有人穷,有人富
  
   CCC: that is class...
   poor class and rich class
  那就是阶级
  穷人和富人
  
   me: yes
  
   CCC: then what about Mao?
  那么毛怎样?
   me: about what
  关于什么
  
   CCC: it is a betray..... Mao wanted to see all men are equal in economic sense...
  这是背叛,毛想看到所有人在经济上平等
  
   me: yes
  
   CCC: then what the CPC does there?
  那么CPC在这方面做了什么呢
  
   me: oppose
  反对
  
   CCC: i cannot believe it...
   communist Maoist China is then no different from America
  我不敢相信
  毛的共产主义中国竟然和美国没什么差别了
  
   me: in some degree ,yes
  某种程度上,是的
  
   CCC: shit... this is very bad... to see China having class differences...
   We talk about Mao and the nation of Mao is capitalist...
  太糟糕了,看到中国有阶级差别
  我们谈论毛,而毛的国家却成了资本主义
  
   me: it is complicated to understand,isn’t it
  太复杂了,很难理解,是不?
  
   CCC: brother tell me one thing very honestly, are you happy with the communist system in China?
  兄弟,诚实的告诉我告诉我一件事情,你在共产主义中国觉得幸福吗?
  
   me: indeed,yes
   bureaucracy,do you know
  since 1979,it had expand a lot
  是的(怎么说呢,虽然有着很多很多的不如意,但是国家的进步还是很大的,前路很多荆棘,但是我想这条路还是正确的)
  官僚主义,你知道吗?
  自从1979年以来,官僚主义膨胀了很多
  
   CCC: yes i know..
   why Communist system is better than democratic system?
  是的,我知道
  那么为什么共产主义制度比民主制度更好呢?
  
   CCC: but now I can understand why the red dragon is sleeping...
  不过现在我明白为什么红色的龙依然沉睡了
  
   me: yes
  
   CCC: in a communist system there should not be any upper class and lower class...
   only people...
  在共产主义制度下,应该不存在高等阶级和低等阶级
  只有人民
  
   me: but in fact,there is
  但是实际上存在
  
   CCC: then what is the definiton of communism?
   definition of communism
  那么共产主义的定义是什么
  共产主义的定义
  
   me: i don’t know clearly
   process of capitalism seemed avoidable before communism
   like what Marx said
  我不是很清楚
  工产主义实现之前,资本主义发展过程似乎不可逾越
  就像马克思说的
  
   CCC: Is China’s relation with Russia good now?
  中国和俄罗斯的关系好吗?
  
   me: just OK
  还可以
  
   CCC: can you then visit Russia?
  你能访问俄罗斯吗?
  
   me: there are many Chinese in Russia
   bussiness or study
  俄罗斯有很多中国人
  做生意或者学习
  
   CCC: ok very nice...
  很好
  
   me: but there are Skinhead in Russia also
  但是俄罗斯也有光头党
  
   CCC: How Russians treat Chinese?
  俄罗斯对待中国怎样
  
   me: ally for cope with US
   but they fear China in some degree,there are too many people
   and there are few people in Siberia
  对付美国的盟友
  不过在某种程度上,他们害怕中国,中国人口太多了
  而在西伯利亚他们只有很少的人口
  
   CCC: Are Russians racists?
  俄国人种族歧视吗?
  
  me: i think most of them are not racists
  but there are Skinhead
  Skinhead is Nazi
  我想他们中间的多数人不是种族主义分子
  不过那里有光头党
  光头党是纳粹
  
   CCC: ok... its good... then do Russian women marry Chinese men?
  好的,有俄罗斯女人嫁给中国男人吗?
  
   me: yes
  
   CCC: are there Russian women in China?
  有俄罗斯女人在中国吗?
  
   me: many of them
  很多人
  
   CCC: Have you ever met any Russian woman?
  你曾经遇上过俄罗斯女人吗?
  
   me: yes
  
  CCC: Are they very proud of their nose and eyes...?
   are they arrogant?
  他们非常傲慢吗,因为他们的鼻子和眼睛
  他们傲慢吗?
  
   me: no
  no at all
   they seemed weak
  不是
  一点也不
  她们看起来是弱势者
作者:thisnameok 时间:2009-02-20 12:40:38
  哪里来的谈话,怪怪的
作者:酷的惊动了党中央 时间:2009-02-20 12:41:14
  伟大的隋文帝
作者:theace_cxs 时间:2009-02-20 12:46:56
  marlk
楼主埃涅阿斯 时间:2009-02-20 15:30:25
     me: i am afraid it is very difficult
  恐怕这是很困难的事情
  
  CCC: what is difficult...?
  什么是困难的?
  
  me: a separate nation is difficult
  建立一个独立的国家
  
   CCC: yes...
   there are demands for separate Naga nation, Manipuri nation and many others...
  if they are united then it is not very difficult...
  是的,那加,曼尼普尔等等邦都想建立独立国家
  如果他们联合起来就不会很困难了
  
   me: is your maoist organization firm?
  你们的毛派组织严密吗?
  
   CCC: no... very sad
  不是,非常遗憾
  
   me: no regular meeting?
  没有经常开会
  
   CCC: no... its almost impossible....
  没有,这几乎不可能
  
   me: is the meeting forbiden?
  开会是被禁止的吗?
  
  CCC: no its not forbidden...
   but the situation is not normal...
  不禁止,
  但是局势不正常
   me: how could your party expand fresh party members?
  那你们的党怎么发展党员?
  
   CCC: well, the Maoist party actually operates in Andhra Pradesh and Orissa... in west bengal in few districts they operate..
  好吧,毛派党在安德拉邦和奥里萨邦还有西孟加拉邦的一部分地区运行
  
   me: Party group of every rank is very important
  各级党组织会议是很重要的
  
   CCC: yes...
  
   me: sometime,i think you must be a biologist
  有时候我都以为你是生物学家
   CCC: no... the funniest report today is a Japanese couple with family members came to Kolkata to get married here by Vedic hindu system....
   Japanese once supported Hiler...
  不是,今天最搞笑的新闻是一对日本夫妇和他们的家庭成员到加尔各答结婚,用的是印度教仪式
  日本曾经支持希特勒
  
   me: yes ,i know
  是的,我知道
  
   CCC: still they worship the racist culture...
   so they have found racist hindus friendly...
  他们现在还是信访种族主义文化
  所以他们对种族主义的印度教很友好
  
   me: could hindism recognize them as Brahman?
  印度教会把他们看作婆罗门吗?
  
   CCC: never..... rather hindu caucasians mock them, laugh at them, recognize them as ugly yello chinkis....
   this is the fact....
  不可能,印度白人戏弄他们,嘲笑他们,认为他们是丑陋的黄种chinkis
  这就是事实
  
   me: what a joke
  可笑
  
   me: acient Egyptian and Sumerian are Mongoloid too
  they have black straight hair like Chinese
   I mean all the great acient civilization are set up by us
  古代埃及人和苏美尔人都是黄种人(很多迹象表明苏美尔人和中国人渊源很深,神话故事的类似,蛇龙崇拜,文字上苏美尔是楔形文字,跟中国古代甲骨文之类的也风格类似,甚至中国的商朝中的“商”和苏美尔很可能是同一个词)
  他们是直黑发,像中国人一样
  我的意思是,古代所有的伟大文明都是我们的人创造的
  
   CCC: yes our nose is not so sharp or pointed, our hair is straight, our height is medium, our eyes are different, so?
   but those hindu caucasians think because of these features we must die..
   ridiculous...
  是的,我们的鼻子不高,我们的头发是直的,我们身高中等,我们的眼睛不一样,所以
  但是那些印度教白人觉得因为我们这些特征我们就该死
  荒谬
  
  CCC: and they try to do that...
  those hindu caucasians in asia always mock us and try to harass us....
   know why?
  他们会这样做的
  亚洲的印度教白人总是嘲弄我们并且骚扰我们
  你知道为什么吗
  
  me: why
  
   CCC: because it is the fact that we have lost our masculinity....
   because we have become effeminate
   because we are not aggressive
   because we are defensive
  because we do not care if our women are kidnapped or hijacked by them
   look. every thing related to human on earth is based upon social darwinism...
   the fittest will survive...
   and those who are not fit enough will die instantly...
   if we are not conscious enough our race will become extinct
   tomorrow there will be no mongoloid race
  因为我们不在乎我们的妇女被他们掳掠
  看,地球上人类的一切都和社会达尔文进化论有关
  适者生存
  那些不适应的就会立即死亡
  如果我们不足够重视的话,我们的种族就会被灭亡
  明天就会没有黄种人了
  因为我们失去了男子汉的气概
  因为我们变得女人气
  因为我们不具有侵略性
  因为我们是防御性的
  
   me: i think wolf will win the tiger
  我想狼会胜过老虎
  
   CCC: yes we must be the wolves....to win the tiger...
  because to cut a piece of iron we need to have another piece of iron
   so we must lunch counter attack...
   culturally...
  是的,我们应该做狼,战胜老虎
  要截断一块铁我们必须用另一块铁
  所以我们应该反击
  文化上
  
   me: you know,the totem of Mongol is wolf
   their flag
   the wolves have organization,but tiger doesn’t
  我知道,蒙古人的图腾是狼
  他们的旗帜
  狼有组织,老虎没有
  
   CCC: so we need to unite people under the Maoist umbrella....
  所以我们需要团结人民在毛泽东的旗帜下
  
   me: macroscopy
   microscopic organization is important also
  宏观上
  围观上的组织结构也很重要
   me: the army organized well would win the worse one,even with low class weapons
  the most awful power of CCP is organization
  组织良好的军队将会战胜组织不太良好的军队,即使用比较差的武器
  CCP最强大的力量就在于组织
   CCC: and their policy is very deceiving... they are using the indian mongoloid after brainwashing them with nationalist agenda....
   they will throw them into the dustbin after using them...
   in fact this is the worst kind of exploitation....
   why should our race will fight against us for the benefit of another hostile race?
  他们的策略很具有欺骗性,他们用国家宣传把印度黄种人洗脑
  他们在用过他们以后会把他们扔进垃圾箱
  者是最坏的利用
  为什么我们的种族要跟自己人打仗却令其他种族受益呢
  
   me: you couldn’t believe it, the KMT soildier captured by CCP will become CCP soildier after few days
  they fight even more brave than quondam CCP solidiers
  你不会相信的,被共军俘虏的国军士兵几天内就会转变成共军
  他们甚至比原本的共军作战还要勇敢
  
   CCC: ok can you tell me?
  好的,你能告诉我吗
  
   me: the CCP could capture their heart in only few days
   political commissar (within the army)
   in every company
   mao firmly insisted this at early time of build the red army
  共军能够在很短的时间内俘获他们的心
  政委
  在每个连队
  毛在早期建立红军的时候坚持这条
作者:xiqingwan 时间:2009-02-20 16:21:47
  等待更新!
作者:ha_hn 时间:2009-02-20 17:04:53
  me: you couldn’t believe it, the KMT soildier captured by CCP will become CCP soildier after few days
    they fight even more brave than quondam CCP solidiers
    你不会相信的,被共军俘虏的国军士兵几天内就会转变成共军
    他们甚至比原本的共军作战还要勇敢
  ================================================================
  我认为这一点是TG胜利的重要原因之一
  支队建在连上等办法非常有效果
  
  我估计英文资料只有成文的毛选等,而没有具体介绍操作过程的中文翻译资料。
  
  不过,那些邦想各自建国,这样很容易被各个击破,无法形成合力。
  
  LZ在他们这个最根本的问题没解决之前,还是先不要说太多这种细节。免得让别人以为知道这个办法就能解决问题,人家可是得用生命为代价去验证某个错误的。
  
作者:_Y_Y_ 时间:2009-02-20 17:09:06
  good!
  以前只听说印度东北部有黄种人存在,这是我第一次听到他们的生存状态。
  我们对他们的了解太少了,感觉他们就是在阿三的阴影下艰苦地生存,悄无声息。
  兄弟们加油!
  强顶!
  
作者:_Y_Y_ 时间:2009-02-20 17:12:02
  作者:ha_hn 回复日期:2009-02-20 17:04:53 
     me: you couldn’t believe it, the KMT soildier captured by CCP will become CCP soildier after few days
      they fight even more brave than quondam CCP solidiers
      你不会相信的,被共军俘虏的国军士兵几天内就会转变成共军
      他们甚至比原本的共军作战还要勇敢
    ================================================================
    我认为这一点是TG胜利的重要原因之一
    支队建在连上等办法非常有效果
    
    我估计英文资料只有成文的毛选等,而没有具体介绍操作过程的中文翻译资料。
    
    不过,那些邦想各自建国,这样很容易被各个击破,无法形成合力。
    
    LZ在他们这个最根本的问题没解决之前,还是先不要说太多这种细节。免得让别人以为知道这个办法就能解决问题,人家可是得用生命为代价去验证某个错误的。
  ------------------------
  土共应该系统地培养一批有生力量啊,否则就他们这种原始状态与阿三正规军搏斗,太难了。
  
作者:yzy435125 时间:2009-02-20 17:26:25
  有意思!坐等
楼主埃涅阿斯 时间:2009-02-20 20:29:06
  作者:_Y_Y_ 回复日期:2009-02-20 17:12:02 
    作者:ha_hn 回复日期:2009-02-20 17:04:53 
       
      LZ在他们这个最根本的问题没解决之前,还是先不要说太多这种细节。免得让别人以为知道这个办法就能解决问题,人家可是得用生命为代价去验证某个错误的。
    ------------------------
    土共应该系统地培养一批有生力量啊,否则就他们这种原始状态与阿三正规军搏斗,太难了。
  =======================
  说明白也没用,离TG当年的组织水平差太远了,无组织无纪律无纲领无计划,几乎跟崇拜明星那种粉丝差不多。顶了个共产主义空壳的共产主义公司,没有组织结构的实质。无怪TG不支持他们,只是纯粹的概念股,看不出有什么成长面。
  
  再说了,即使他们靠自己的力量革命成功了,TG也不怕他们不自动过来拜山头。就像尼共一样,没帮过他们什么忙,一旦取得政权还是立马过来朝见了。反正如今苏共垮了,TG就是嫡系老大,管你有没有抱怨情绪,一样得来,还别说印度这么个大敌当前了。
  
作者:行者不惧 时间:2009-02-20 22:09:52
  楼主你告诉他们,TG三大法宝:
  
  ----土改,武装斗争,统一战线。
作者:ha_hn 时间:2009-02-21 00:03:24
  看CCC對社會主義的那些幻想,表明他們是受壓迫後,想找個強者作為心理依靠,真的就像粉絲對偶像的那種盲目崇拜
  
  婦女對士兵強姦案的抗議竟然是在軍營前的裸體抗議
  
  也可見整個社會都沒找到有用的對抗方法
作者:f34bn 时间:2009-02-21 00:04:22
  楼主是在用MSN和这个人聊吗?
作者:93005655 时间:2009-02-21 03:28:08
  关注
楼主埃涅阿斯 时间:2009-02-21 11:30:31
     me: have you fight them before
  你跟他们打过吗?
  
  CCC: actually in indian empire.... caucasian hindus are 72%... 26% Negroids...
   and Mongoloids only 2%....
  less than 2%
   how can you fight?
  实际上,在印度这个帝国,印度教白人占72%,26%是黑人,黄种人只有2%
  少于2%
  怎么打
  
   me: how about Bengal
  孟加拉怎样呢
  
  CCC: all are indo-aryans or hindu caucasians...
   you can hardly see a mongoloid....here
  也都是印欧人种,或高加索人种
  你在那里很难遇上黄种人
  
   me: you mean some of the lowest claste are caucasians too
  照你这个意思,一些最低等种姓的人也是白人咯
  
   CCC: its because low caste austrics and negrito women have been raped by caucasians and become pregnant.....
  那是因为低等种姓的澳洲黑人和尼格罗妇女被白人强奸怀孕
  
   me: that’s bad
  糟糕
  
   CCC: mongoloid women are continuously raped by caucasian hindu boys....
   but they do not marry them...
   just use and throw...
  黄种女人被白人男子不断的强奸
  但是他们不会娶她们
  就是用过,然后扔掉
  
   me: is there many rape case in India
  在印度有很多强奸案吗
  
  CCC: india is famous for rape and prostitution
   govt does nothing...
   because govt wants to make the other races extinct
  印度的强奸和卖淫之多是出了名的
  政府不作为
  因为政府想让其他种族消失
  
   me: terrible
  
   CCC: if you dont believe... i ask you to come and see by yourself...
  如果你不信,你可以来亲眼看看
  
   me: yes,i believe you
  我信你
  
   CCC: its more terrible than hitler’s concentration camp....
   why i should say against my own country....
   because... hindu caucasians have not made us citizens...
   rather slaves...
  比希特勒的集中营还可怕
  我为什么要说自己国家的坏话呢
  因为白人不把我们当公民看,而是当奴隶看
  
  CCC: christian graham stein
   he came to india to preach christianity
   among poor people
  he along with his family was burned alive
   hindus killed him
   also his whole family
  一个叫小G的基督徒牧师
  他到印度来传教在穷人中
  他和他的家人被活活烧死了
  印度教徒杀了他
  和他的全家
  
  in army the officers are brahmins
   the officers are hindus
   but the soldiers are low castes
   shudra caste
   shudra are not untouchables
  dalits
   untouchables are called
   dalit means oppressed
  在军队里,军官是婆罗门
  军官是印度教徒
  但士兵是低等种姓的人
  首陀罗
  首陀罗不是不可接触的人
  达利特
  不可接触的人称为达利特
  达利特意思就是被压迫的
  
   me: can shudra caste become lieutenant
  首陀罗可以成为低级军官吗
  
   CCC: yes they can become
   but not dalits
  是的,他们可以
  但是达利特不能
  
  me: why did shudra fight in war ,why not mutiny?
  为什么首陀罗愿意作战呢,为什么不哗变?
  
   CCC: because he is brainwashed by Hinduism
  他们被印度教洗脑了
  
   CCC: india became liberated in 1947
   not liberated
  india got decolonized
   from british
   but now internal colonization is still there
   here we call it internal
   not external
   british outsiders
   they stayed in india
   but their home was in england
   they never left their home
  印度是1947年解放的
  不是解放
  是脱离殖民统治
  从英国人那里
  但是内部殖民仍然照旧
  我们这里叫做内部殖民
  不是外部殖民
  英国人是外来的
  他们呆在印度
  但是他们的家在英国
  他们没有离开他们的家
  他们永远不会离开他们的家
  
   me: why didn’t british end the hinduism before
  为什么英国人不结束种姓制度呢
  
  CCC: they had tried, but in 1857 they understood, if they ever try to do that, the indians would again revolt....
  他们曾经试图这么做,不过到了1857年,他们明白了,如果他们继续这种努力,印度人会叛乱
作者:liquanzhang 时间:2009-02-21 12:09:09
  期待更新
作者:jackzheug 时间:2009-02-21 12:19:32
  作者:行者不惧 回复日期:2009-02-20 22:09:52 
  
    楼主你告诉他们,TG三大法宝:
    
    ----土改,武装斗争,统一战线。
  --------------------
  没用,他们没有改朝换代的传统
楼主埃涅阿斯 时间:2009-02-21 15:20:07
  最新消息,昨天夜间,斯里兰卡首都科伦坡发生自杀爆炸事件,17人死亡,45人受伤。
楼主埃涅阿斯 时间:2009-02-21 15:27:17
  哦,上面的搞错了
  
  -- Leading News from Sri Lanka --
  
  * Sri Lanka capital on alert of an LTTE air attack, explosion heard
  Friday, February 20, 2009, 17:10 GMT, ColomboPage News Desk, Sri Lanka.
  Feb 20, Colombo: Sri Lankan capital Colombo is on alert over an LTTE attack while an explosion was heard in the Fort area, sources said.
  
  Military sources say two Tiger aircraft have attacked the capital and the Air Force is on their pursuit at the moment with air defence systems activated.
  
  An explosion has been heard near the port area but the sources say it is not certain yet whether it was plane or a bomb.
  
  Sources said the whole capital is in darkness and anti-aircraft guns have been fired and tracers can be seen in the night sky.
  
  The Sri Lankan army captured six LTTE runways but did not find any of their aircraft. The military say they may be operating from another runway in the rebel held narrow strip of land along the eastern coast of Mullaitivu that is not yet captured.
作者:elam1977 时间:2009-02-21 19:32:21
  我一定要再次留名。我们是否可以组建志愿军?
楼主埃涅阿斯 时间:2009-02-21 19:46:39
  大吉岭女孩

楼主埃涅阿斯 时间:2009-02-21 19:48:35
  印度东北部女子

楼主埃涅阿斯 时间:2009-02-21 21:28:22
     CCC: see one Gurkha girl....
  看这个廓尔喀族女孩
   http://images.google.co.in/imgres?imgurl=http://www.himalayan-imports.com/gorkha_girl.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.himalayan-imports.com/khukuri-history.html&usg=__UdVSDn-uTrqhsURQiaoXnLNsUTc=&h=335&w=494&sz=67&hl=en&start=7&sig2=wCNihQVjhV9nnlq2cQwhTw&um=1&tbnid=ZkO6amvcsg0E-M:&tbnh=88&tbnw=130&ei=nOWfSYOCJ5Wm6wPAsbSmCg&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dnorth%2Beast%2Bmongoloid%2Bgirls%2Bphotos%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff%26sa%3DX
  
   me: look totally like Chinese
  看起来完全像是中国人
  
   CCC: some photos of the Darjeeling.....
  一些大吉岭图片
   http://images.google.co.in/imgres?imgurl=http://bp0.blogger.com/_zqflS-A_BSk/RuuexphBqsI/AAAAAAAAAFM/tLP85Mj4DvE/s400/little%2Bgirls.JPG&imgrefurl=http://thechroniclesofnanya.blogspot.com/2007_09_01_archive.html&usg=__xWV0pKmZBfn3PIp_IRZNHHQjvwQ=&h=287&w=400&sz=45&hl=en&start=16&sig2=nZ24AM4b4kz-EmNQXUJ0Ug&um=1&tbnid=P1BVKUW_c0BdhM:&tbnh=89&tbnw=124&ei=nOWfSYOCJ5Wm6wPAsbSmCg&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dnorth%2Beast%2Bmongoloid%2Bgirls%2Bphotos%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff%26sa%3DX
   http://images.google.co.in/imgres?imgurl=http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/5540/akuonuo20khezhie1zf4.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/lofiversion/index.php/t156969.html&usg=__rvh-WQyW9e0_Zv6X3Hk7zLrTGZM=&h=309&w=264&sz=20&hl=en&start=15&sig2=3zC_Hr6ybqKnbmTKgzxQTg&um=1&tbnid=itj9MUbgObwJtM:&tbnh=117&tbnw=100&ei=nOWfSYOCJ5Wm6wPAsbSmCg&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dnorth%2Beast%2Bmongoloid%2Bgirls%2Bphotos%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff%26sa%3DX
  
  me: beauty
  美女
  
  CCC: and fucking aryans are exploting them....
   they are polluting our blood....
  可恶的印度教徒压迫他们
  他们在污染我们的血脉
  
   some village Nagas....
  那加村庄
   http://images.google.co.in/imgres?imgurl=http://newsgallery.oneindia.in/d/46092-2/031207Naga-1.jpg&imgrefurl=http://newsgallery.oneindia.in/v/people/031207Naga-1.JPG.html&usg=__bj0-Xv93aSXH0B5Lubyts3_Mfm4=&h=405&w=540&sz=44&hl=en&start=6&sig2=VMwd5s2G5MTwwh8nFTbBtw&um=1&tbnid=E0lUjNX19UVmdM:&tbnh=99&tbnw=132&ei=DOefSaTHJszOkAW36qTVCw&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dnaga%2Bgirls%2Bphotos%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff%26sa%3DG
   http://images.google.co.in/imgres?imgurl=http://photogallery.hosuronline.com/pictures/NagaGirls.jpg&imgrefurl=http://photogallery.hosuronline.com/home/detail.asp%3FiData%3D362%26iCat%3D14%26iChannel%3D3%26nChannel%3DPictures&usg=__IiuR28JIup4OJutRk9be5YKMe1w=&h=273&w=400&sz=35&hl=en&start=27&sig2=StUk-FNJoBM0DSvwr8qB2w&um=1&tbnid=R05VfPh_wXcqOM:&tbnh=85&tbnw=124&ei=g-ifSfyqKszOkAXX6YzVCw&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dnaga%2Bgirls%2Bphotos%26start%3D20%26ndsp%3D20%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff%26sa%3DN
  
  http://images.google.co.in/imgres?imgurl=http://www.ashextourism.com/Nagaland/images/ao-girls.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.ashextourism.com/Nagaland/nagaland_mainpage.htm&usg=__af8Wq9mlMBHAaPDOxADZK8cgS5g=&h=191&w=193&sz=9&hl=en&start=47&sig2=R8tOYqJzXttkseGxUH7MCg&um=1&tbnid=ZIbDPHvVQk6fIM:&tbnh=102&tbnw=103&ei=EOmfSc_HGYfQ6gPey5iyCg&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dnaga%2Bgirls%2Bphotos%26start%3D40%26ndsp%3D20%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff%26sa%3DN
  
   see some more beauties...
  看看更多美女
   http://images.google.co.in/imgres?imgurl=http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_izx88nA-hQo/RpwC_m0LkGI/AAAAAAAAAIs/wUeHcIsIUa0/s320/ftg6.tmp&imgrefurl=http://northeastonline.blogspot.com/2007/07/naga-girls-in-traditional-attire.html&usg=__svMZJcagqduQbaJVFP9TOZNAIRg=&h=213&w=320&sz=23&hl=en&start=56&sig2=m_CqedbmngRegiX_pSVMMA&um=1&tbnid=afnkFtqM572x3M:&tbnh=79&tbnw=118&ei=EOmfSc_HGYfQ6gPey5iyCg&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dnaga%2Bgirls%2Bphotos%26start%3D40%26ndsp%3D20%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff%26sa%3DN
  
  http://images.google.co.in/imgres?imgurl=http://www.himalayankingdoms.com/images/himalaya/arunachal_pradesh/forbidden_frontier/NAG16.jpg&imgrefurl=http://asianfanatics.net/forum/lofiversion/index.php/t323464-100.html&usg=__XXU_CfxAsSNR61AVjO2eUAzqzoU=&h=433&w=320&sz=114&hl=en&start=14&sig2=F4VGZ2qk0KDrBFPT8Rde0Q&um=1&tbnid=dVzZepxgCQ84SM:&tbnh=126&tbnw=93&ei=1OmfSbyCGZWm6wPLsbSmCg&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dnorth%2Beast%2Bbeautiful%2Bnaga%2Bgirls%2Bphotos%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff%26sa%3DG
   http://images.google.co.in/imgres?imgurl=http://databank.nedfi.com/dimages/modern_naga_girl.jpg&imgrefurl=http://databank.nedfi.com/db2/index.php%3Fmodule%3Dpagemaster%26PAGE_user_op%3Dview_page%26PAGE_id%3D312%26MMN_position%3D471:439&usg=__vshbvEHbRRvoBnEMCRNJyF4AWrg=&h=317&w=135&sz=17&hl=en&start=16&sig2=dnLEeD-gjKKq-pkdElbaDg&um=1&tbnid=qFFLIq2F3EaTsM:&tbnh=118&tbnw=50&ei=1OmfSbyCGZWm6wPLsbSmCg&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dnorth%2Beast%2Bbeautiful%2Bnaga%2Bgirls%2Bphotos%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff%26sa%3DG
  
  there are more on youtube
  Youtbe 上面还有很多
  
   CCC: the assamese people are mixed blood...
   mongoloid+Caucasians....
  阿萨姆人是混血,
  黄种人+白人
  
   me: yes
  
   CCC: you see this Assamese girl.... the music is called Bihu...
  看这个阿萨姆女孩,这首歌叫做Bihu
  
   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOgTtxQ0J_o
  
   CCC: watch out this naga dance
  看看那加舞蹈
  
   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBDEEQdNzfM&feature=related
  
   me: their clother like south-west Chinese
  她们的衣服看起来像是中国西南地区的
  
   CCC: another Assamese bihu...
  又一个阿萨姆Bihu
  
   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEgiU1bkAMw&feature=related
  
   and there the Manipuri girls are really very beautiful among all other girls...
  曼尼普尔女孩是她们中间最漂亮的
  
  see this Manipuri girl....
  看看曼尼普尔女孩
  
   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_S4PNv-J0Y
  
   CCC: ok... I think we are the natural protectors of our sisters....
   and we should protect them ...
  我想我们应该保护我们的姐妹
  我们应该保护她们
  
   me: of course
  当然
  
   CCC: because they can pollute our blood....
  因为他们会玷污我们
  
   CCC: another vid of manipuri girl....
  又一个曼尼普尔女孩
  
   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBTgG4QBkj8
  
   http://www.youtube.com/results?search_type=&search_query=manipuri+songs&aq=0
  
   CCC: i am giving you Meghalaya girls’ photos and Arunachal Pradesh girls’ photos
  我给你一些梅加拉亚邦女孩和阿恰鲁尔(藏南)女孩的图片
  
   CCC: the Khasis of Meghalaya are mixed...
   Negroid+Mongoloid....
  梅加拉亚邦Khasis人是混血
  黑人+黄种人
  
   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3eP_o3fLTc
  
  
   CCC: and you know Arunachal Pradesh.... situated between China and india borders?
   ok... see these Arunachali girls... they live in villages and they are very poor....
   but the girls are very sweet...
  你知道阿恰鲁尔邦吧,在中国和印度之间的
  看看这些阿恰鲁尔女孩,他们住在农村而且很穷
  但是她们们很甜
  
   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zmbc6VdPP_o
  
  CCC: so tell the Chinese boys... to come india and marry those girls... I will help them....
  所以,告诉中国男孩来这里娶她们,我会帮助他们
  
   me: haha,thank you
  
   CCC: because I do not want them get polluted by aryan semen....
  因为我不想看到她们被白人的精液污染
  
   CCC: did you know about the Mongoloid girls of india before?
  did you have any idea before?
  以前你知道印度黄种人女孩的情况吗
  你以前有这个概念吗
  
   me: no
  
   indian mongoloid girls are very beautiful....
  印度的黄种女孩很美丽
  
   me:yes,of course
  当然
  
   CCC: their eyes are not very small....
  她们的眼睛并不小
  
   me: yes,they look really like south-west Chinese
  many beauty there
   shichuang,yunnan province
   do you know
  是的,她们看起来真像中国西南部的人
  那里很多美女
  四川,云南
  你知道吗
  
   CCC: yes... and one indian hindu aryan army man raped Manorama Thangzam of manipur at one night and then killed her...
   fired 20 shots or bullets at her vagina
   so that no medical report can confirm the crime afterwards
  是的,一支印度教军队会强奸曼尼普尔的小M整整一夜,然后杀死她
  在她阴道里面射进去20颗子弹
  之后没有媒体会去证实此事
  
   me: they are barbarian
  他们是野蛮人
  
   CCC: fucking bastard hindu aryans...
  操这些婊子养的印度教徒
  
  http://www.tianya.cn/publicforum/content/worldlook/1/208707.shtml
  http://www.worldpress.org/Asia/1901.cfm
楼主埃涅阿斯 时间:2009-02-22 15:40:41
     me: is there many cases there?
  这样的事情很多吗?
  
   CCC: yes... only a few gets highlighted by the media
  media does not cover them all
  是的,只有很少的被媒体报导
  媒体不能覆盖她们所有人
  
  me: there should be many guns,like Africa
  那里应该有很多枪,像非洲一样
  
   CCC: yes... but the problem is they cannot fight the whole indian army alone
  and then all their men will be killed
  是的,问题是他们不能单独对付整个印度军队
  所有的男人都会被杀死
作者:行者不惧 时间:2009-02-22 19:23:04
  作者:埃涅阿斯 回复日期:2009-02-21 19:48:35 
    印度东北部女子
  ================
  哇靠,这女孩很像我以前的一个重庆女友!
作者:只抽红河烟 时间:2009-02-22 19:25:51
  .

作者:行者不惧 时间:2009-02-22 20:23:33
  Bihu Dance已经完全是我们印象中的印度歌舞了,男主角像黄种人;
  曼尼普尔女孩http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBTgG4QBkj8视频好难打开,我耐心等.......
  
作者:kun2009 时间:2009-02-22 20:43:29
  留名
作者:行者不惧 时间:2009-02-22 21:00:59
  曼尼普尔女孩http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBTgG4QBkj8
  彻底晕了,那男主角完全就是黄种人,像个缅甸人
  音乐方面,居然也像缅甸音乐!
作者:猫儿吹着笛子来 时间:2009-02-22 21:03:02
  哦!!!楼主如果这些谈话是真的话,那么印度这个讨厌邻居的问题可就比我们想像中严重的多。
  
   大家来探讨一下吧,这些分裂势力如何才能成功。
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