外国网民热烈讨论:外籍人士能加入中国解放军么?(转载)

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【译文-中文】外籍人士可以加入中国解放军么?
【原文-加拿大】Could non-chinese join PLA?
【原文地址】:http://www.sinodefenceforum.com/army/could-non-chinese-join-pla-4639.html
  
  Could non-chinese join PLA?
  外籍人士可以加入中国解放军么?
  PLA Soldier(楼主)
  
  As seen in topic, my porblem is that I wish to know would it be possible for non-chinese citizen to join PLÀ? This not a joke, I´m talking dead-serious about this.
  
  如题,我想知道非中国公民加入解放军是否可能?大家别笑,我是认真的。
  bd popeye
  
  In my short 5 year study study of the PLA the answer is no
  The answer can be found in this link below.
  http://www.militarytimes.com/static/...3dnplanavy.pdf
  
  由我五年来对PLA的研究来看,答案是否定的。
  
  你可以看看下面的链接,其中有你要找的答案:
  
  http://www.militarytimes.com/static/...3dnplanavy.pdf(美国人的出台的中国海军报告,有时间可以去看看)
  
  PLA Soldier
  
  Thank you for your answer. But, would it be then possible if I would give up my old citizenship and gain chinese citizenship?
  多谢你的回复,但是,如果我放弃原来的国籍,加入中国国籍呢,有可能吗?
  
  Originally Posted by PLA Soldier
  
  Thank you for your answer. But, would it be then possible if I would give up my old citizenship and gain chinese citizenship?
  
  Nope..Someone asked that question previously..several years ago in fact. Perhaps in this thread or in theold ez board days of 5 years ago.
  You have to be Chinese citizen of the Peoples Republic of China to join the PLA. All others need not apply.
  You >>> PLA soldier <<<cannot join! Join the Army in your home country would be your best bet..
  edit 5 minutes later...
  
  Let’’s see as near as I figure you live in Finland and are only 15 years old according to your profile. So in most countries you have to be 17 or 18 to join the military. So just wait until then.
  
  还是不行啦,有人最近问过和你一样的问题……好吧,是几年前,也许是五年前,当时这个论坛的版本可能还处于ezboard(公告板)时代吧。
  
  你首先必须生为中华人民共和国的公民,才有资格加入解放军,其他一切免谈。
  
  你,解放军战士,两者无缘,放弃吧,还是加入你自己国家的军队吧,这才是王道。
  
  进一步说吧,由你的资料,我猜你住在芬兰吧,15岁,在大多数国家,法定参军年龄大概在17到18岁,所以,你还是再喝几年奶看看吧。
  
  Finn McCool
  
  There’’s always the Legion Etrangere
  
  总是有外籍军团存在滴。
  
  Damingli85
  
  What about Chinese turned into American citizen and then to Chinese citizen?
  
  如果一个中国人先换成美国国籍,然后又恢复中国国籍呢?
  
  bd popeye
  
  Quote:
  
  Originally Posted by Damingli85
  
  What about Chinese turned into American citizen and then to Chinese citizen?
  
  Nope
  
  还是不行。
  
  Quote:
  
  You have to be Chinese citizen of the Peoples Republic of China to join the PLA. All others need not apply.
  
  I should have stated a natural born Chinese citizen.
  
  我的意思是你必须是一个土生土长的中国人。
  
  HKSDU
  
  answer is no people not even Hong Kong or Macau people are allowed to join the PLA
  
  
  连香港和澳门的年轻人都不让加入解放军呢。(ID显示应为香港人)
  
  bd popeye
  
  Quote:
  
  Originally Posted by HKSDU
  
  answer is no people not even Hong Kong or Macau people are allowed to join the PLA
  
  
  Thank you! No Tibetans..No Mongolians none of the non racially Chinese people in western China or anywhere else in China. No foreigners.
  You have to be a Chinese person born in China. Period.
  
  多谢啦,西藏人不行,蒙古人不行,这些生活在中国西部省份的或者其他地方的非中原人种都不行(?),更何况是外国人?
  
  你必须是一个土生土长的中国人,讨论到此为止。
  
  backwindow
  
  Quote:
  
  Originally Posted by bd popeye
  
  Thank you! No Tibetans..No Mongolians none of the non racially Chinese people in western China or anywhere else in China. No foreigners.
  
  You have to be a Chinese person born in China. Period.
  
  
  Tibetans & Mongolians & Uyghurs are doing service in PLA. If they are chinese citizen.
  
  解放军中是有西藏人,蒙古人,维族人在服役的,如果他们是中国公民。
  
  lcloo
  
  I was working in China, and I watched CCTV7 regularly. There was a Uyghu girl in PLA medical unit going round villages giving health aid. I remember she was an officer but I forgot her rank.
  
  There are also many non-Han PLA soldiers in Inner Mongolia and Guangxi provinces. Zhuan people in Guangxi are non-Han Chinese.
  
  我曾在中国工作过,时常看CCTV7军事频道,里面看到过一个维族医护兵女孩在给一些村落的人们提供医疗救助,我记得她是个军官,但忘了是什么军衔了。
  
  的确有很多非汉族士兵在内蒙古和广西服役的,广西的壮族就不是汉族人。
  
  Damingli85
  
  But I was born in China! I just got my citizenship here for college .
  
  可我以前就出生在中国啊!我只是为了上大学才换成现在的国籍。(这个华人后悔换国籍了)
  
  backwindow
  
  Although people from Hong Kong and Macau are legally Chinese citizen, they do have different passport.
  
  尽管香港人和澳门人都是中国公民,可他们却有着(跟大陆)不同的护照。
  
  kw64
  
  Quote:
  
  Originally Posted by bd popeye
  
  Thank you! No Tibetans..No Mongolians none of the non racially Chinese people in western China or anywhere else in China. No foreigners.
  
  You have to be a Chinese person born in China. Period.
  
  Sorry but this claim is not true, it’’s not unusual for Chinese minorities to serve in PLA:
  
  很抱歉的说,bd popeye你的说法是不对的,中国少数民族去参军的情况很常见啊。
  Here’’s an example of an Uygur officer:
  
  下面就是一位维族军官的例子:
  http://www.gmw.cn/CONTENT/2009-07/25/content_953564.htm
  And a Tibetan officer:
  
  而这是一位藏族军官:
  http://military.people.com.cn/GB/107...3/7062275.html
  
  tres
  
  Quote:
  
  Originally Posted by bd popeye
  
  Thank you! No Tibetans..No Mongolians none of the non racially Chinese people in western China or anywhere else in China. No foreigners.
  
  You have to be a Chinese person born in China. Period.
  
  That’’s not true. In the history of PLA, there were many people from other countries, including USA, Canada, and India joined PLA. In fact two of the most famous WWII era military doctors were Canadian and Indian.
  bd popeye 你说的不对,在解放军历史上,有很多人是来自外国的,包括美国,加拿大,印度等,实际上,(中国)抗日战争中最出名的两位军医,一个来自加拿大,一个来自印度。
  Today you could see Tibetan, Mongolian, Korean and Urger soldiers in uniforms in different ranks.
  
  如今,你可以找到很多军衔不一的藏族,蒙古族,维族的士兵。
  
  
  
  bball2k
  
  Hmm...this is interesting. Where did you hear that non racially Chinese people cannot join the PLA? CCTV-7 has showed Tibetans in PLA a couple months ago and you can watch those on youtube. Some are serving in the Tibetan areas and some outside. Uyghurs have been shown also.
  
  According to wiki, a ethnic Korean Zhao Nanqi(Cho Namgi) was a 3 star general(1988) and a former director and party secretary of the PLA so it’’s not like ethnic minorities can’’t rise to high ranks either.
  
  恩,蛮有趣的,你们从哪听说非汉族人不能加入解放军的? CCTV7几个月前刚刚播过一期有关藏族士兵的节目,一些在西藏执勤,一些则在其他地方,关于维族士兵,也早就播过了。
  
  根据维基百科资料,一个名叫赵南起(Cho Namgi)朝鲜族人,官至3星上将(1988年),当过军队指战员,党委书记,所以说少数民族将领晋升受到限制的说法也不成立。
  
  bd popeye
  
  Quote:
  
  Hmm...this is interesting. Where did you hear that non racially Chinese people cannot join the PLA? CCTV-7 has showed Tibetans in PLA a couple months ago and you can watch those on youtube. Some are serving in the Tibetan areas and some outside. Uyghurs have been shown also.
  
  According to wiki, a ethnic Korean Zhao Nanqi(Cho Namgi) was a 3 star general(1988) and a former director and party secretary of the PLA so it’’s not like ethnic minorities can’’t rise to high ranks either.
  and...
  
  Quote:
  
  Originally Posted by backwindow
  
  Tibetans & Mongolians & Uyghurs are doing service in PLA. If they are chinese citizen.
  
  http://pic.itiexue.net/pics/2009_4_6_69463_9069463.jpg
  
  Ooppss my bad Thanks for that information! I was unaware of that.
  
  看来我错了,多谢指教,我以前还不知道呢。
  
  PLA Soldier
  
  OKey, thank you for your answer everyone. I have question, and that comes now: If I would move to China, and gain citizenship of Peoples Republic of China, would it be then possible for me to join PLA?
  
  谢谢所有回复的人,现在我的新问题来了:如果我现在搬到中国去住,然后获得中国国籍,那我再参军有戏吗?
  
  bd popeye
  
  Quote:
  
  Originally Posted by PLA Soldier
  
  OKey, thank you for your answer everyone. I have question, and that comes now: If I would move to China, and gain citizenship of Peoples Republic of China, would it be then possible for me to join PLA?
  
  
  Nope..not as far as I know. But I could be wrong...but I don’’t think so.
  至少就我看来,不行。不过也有可能我错了,但这种情况微乎其微。
  Question for you PLA. In our forum here and our sister site sinodefence.com there are hundreds and hundreds of pictuces of PLA soldiers. Thousands proabaly...
  问你个问题,在我们的论坛和姐妹网站sinodefence.com上面,有那么多的解放军照片,可能成千上万张…
  Since you are from Finland..May I ask are you white? That is my assumption. So if you check out photos of the PLA have you evere seen a white westerner in the uniform of the PLA? Ever??? Just asking.
  
  鉴于你来自芬兰,请问你是白人吗?我就臆断如此吧,那么请你翻翻看这些照片,你能找出一张,就一张,上面的解放军战士是穿着制服的白人吗?有过吗?我只是问一下。
  
  PLA Soldier
  
  Yes, I&acute;m white western, and yes, I have never seen any white people in PLA uniform. That is the reason why I&acute;m asking this from you.
  
  是的,我是西方白人,我也承认,我从未见到有白人穿着解放军的制服服役,可这也是我向你问这个问题的原因。
  
  lcloo
  
  From my observation while in China, I have noticed that,
  以我在中国观察的经历,曾经注意到一下的事情:
  The recruitment exercise starts with a large red banner hung up by local village or town government. At the same time local TV will broadcast the time, place, age and document requirements. (In Shenzhen, almost every town has its own TV broadcasting control).
  征兵事宜一般被当地村镇政府大事操办,会悬挂红色的横幅来进行宣传,本地电视台会广播征兵时间,地点,所需准备的材料。(在深圳,几乎每个村镇都有自己的闭路广播电视)
  I only witnessed one recruitment exercise in the same village which I stayed for 7 years. I could have missed a few though. Also, may be because the PLA was cutting down its size during those years, so less recruitments.
  我在我待过7年的小集镇只目睹过一次这样的征兵行动,很可能我错过了一些吧。但也有可能是因为这些年解放军一直在执行裁军政策吧,所以征兵次数减少也理所当然。
  An important documrnt is Residence Card 户口issued by Public Security Bureau. Only mainland Chinese citizens have this document, Hongkong and Macau people don’’t have this as they are ruled under different laws. Without this residence card, you have no way of getting in PLA. (Residence card is not ID card, fake ID cards were easy to get but not residence cards).
  (应征)的一个很重要的材料是你的户口本,由公安局颁发,只有大陆人才有这样的本本,香港人,澳门人没有,因为一国两制嘛。没有这个小本子,你是无论如何也参不了军的。(户口本不是身份证,假的身份证容易搞,可你搞个假户口本试试看?)
  Interview was in collaboration with local town government. I think they want to acertain the personal information and check for crime records, and also priority will be given to member of communist party.
  
  征兵也离不开本地政府的协助,我认为他们是想借此确认应征人员的个人信息,检查是否曾有过犯罪记录,当然,中共党员有被优先招募的权利。
  
  kw64
  
  Quote:
  
  Originally Posted by bd popeye
  
  Nope..not as far as I know. But I could be wrong...but I don’’t think so.
  
  Question for you PLA. In our forum here and our sister site sinodefence.com there are hundreds and hundreds of pictuces of PLA soldiers. Thousands proabaly...
  
  Since you are from Finland..May I ask are you white? That is my assumption. So if you check out photos of the PLA have you evere seen a white westerner in the uniform of the PLA? Ever??? Just asking.
  
  Quote:
  
  Originally Posted by PLA Soldier
  
  OKey, thank you for your answer everyone. I have question, and that comes now: If I would move to China, and gain citizenship of Peoples Republic of China, would it be then possible for me to join PLA?
  
  Popeye:
  
  I would say that’’s an underinformed conclusion, partially because the white/black Chinese population is relatively small, so you don’’t see them in photo ops very often...
  对Popeye说:
  
  我得说,你的说法有欠推敲,(找不到白人解放军战士)的原因,一部分是因为黑或白种中国人的比例在中国人口里相对较低,你看不到是很正常的
  I’’d suggest you to read the latest revised Chinese law regarding military service, in Chapter 1, section 3: http://www.gov.cn/banshi/gm/content_63510.htm
  我建议你读一读最新修订的中国解放军服役法,在第一章,第3节。
  
  http://www.gov.cn/banshi/gm/content_63510.htm
  It states "All Chinese citizen, regardless of ethnicity, race, occupation, family background, or degree of education, have the full right to serve in the military."
  指出:凡中国公民,不管其种族,族群,职业,家庭背景,或教育程度,都享有到军队服役的权利。
  PLA did have two ethnic Russians serving as 1-star generals in the army back in the 60s:
  http://www.360doc.com/content/090716...1_4302019.html
  回溯至60年代,解放军里确实有两名俄罗斯裔的一星将军在役。
  Here’’s some other examples of PLA soldier of Russian descent:
  
  

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作者:wcytky 时间:2010-12-23 11:08:09 广东
  这个芬兰小伙子想来卧底还是咋滴??
作者:真滴假滴ABC 时间:2010-12-23 11:10:11 浙江
  哈哈,这白人有意思,这么想来中国带大红花.
  
  好,有觉悟.
  
  
作者:kachakachashan 时间:2010-12-23 11:14:31 北京
  额~发扬我军政治工作的光荣传统。改造他,使其成为双重间谍~
作者:痛哭跪求包养 时间:2010-12-23 11:15:00 内蒙古
  15岁啊 这小子想啥呢 逃学是直接原因吧·········
作者:我已出轨感觉良好 时间:2010-12-23 11:16:07 浙江
  是啥原因外国人想参加解放军的?没看明白!
作者:martain_1 时间:2010-12-23 11:19:05 天津
  -,-!
  
  其实我还是想知道,到底是因为什么使这个人这么迫切的认真的想要加入中国人民解放军。
  
  
作者:我叫Jasper 时间:2010-12-23 11:21:33 山东
  应该告诉他,只要获得中国国籍就可以,但是问题是中国国籍非常非常难拿,居住50年以上,或者做过特殊贡献的…
作者:阿木97 时间:2010-12-23 11:22:03 吉林
  也许他是另一个白求恩。
作者:踩着须弥山吐火玩 时间:2010-12-23 11:23:13 四川
  说起来,芬兰人的基因不是跟轩辕华夏人很接近么 = =!
作者:阿姨兮带路 时间:2010-12-23 11:26:04 广西
  念完大学,来中国工作半年,向工作所在地提出申请,获准后即可报名参加应征。体检及政审合格后,即可加入光荣的中国人民解放军行列。
作者:我叫Jasper 时间:2010-12-23 11:28:22 山东
  不过啊…这个孩子想干啥…来踢正步?
作者:踩着须弥山吐火玩 时间:2010-12-23 11:29:52 四川
  这论坛好雷啊。。居然这么多老外专门来关心中国军事。。。
作者:小公瑾 时间:2010-12-23 11:31:16 天津
  中国的脑残们不孤独了!
作者:redash2 时间:2010-12-23 11:31:31 福建
  为什么想参加pla??
  好奇异的想法。
  ----
  顺说,就是那些恨不得偷渡也好出去的人,我看他们也从没想过去参军嘛,也都是想去享福来着。
作者:tlxwny 时间:2010-12-23 11:32:20 北京
  芬兰人虽然是白肤色,但从基因看是黄种人...所以想找个东方军队参军吧。
  
  估计他努努力加入新加坡军队还是有希望的...
作者:愚公蒸鱼 时间:2010-12-23 11:35:22 北京
  什么时候国人看到老外评论咱们时能不激动就说明国家真强了,就一普通外国网友想加入解放军瞧你们尾巴
作者:邪门外道 时间:2010-12-23 11:37:30 北京
  估计是刚看完“解放军在巴黎”,觉得里边的反派很酷
作者:邪门外道 时间:2010-12-23 11:39:46 北京
  中国对很多西方人来讲代表着神秘,陌生,遥远,以前看很多欧美电影里的角色经常说“某某人去中国了”“我要去中国”,表示某人消失了很久,或打算彻底消失得意思
作者:taoys0414 时间:2010-12-23 11:48:54 四川
  每个人都有不同的梦想好伐?不要鼠目寸光
作者:WUH2006 时间:2010-12-23 11:50:47 湖北
  芬兰是黄白混血的乌拉尔人种,好像跟通古斯有点关系。
作者:有机金属 时间:2010-12-23 11:56:04 天津
  这孩子还小 NC可医。可惜上了年纪的FF吃再多药也无济于事了
作者:共和国卫士长 时间:2010-12-23 12:01:41 山东
  一派胡言,中国不乏兵源,不可能顾佣外国籍兵,他们不知为谁而当兵,只有子弟兵才有国家意识人民愿意识!

作者:223848199 时间:2010-12-23 12:03:38 广东
  政审不给过的
作者:wpskkk2 时间:2010-12-23 12:11:38 广东
  本帖的作者是:Aville
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  请本帖的转帖者下次注意!!!!
作者:hanfei30 时间:2010-12-23 12:15:58 天津
  不上贡就想参军,看来老外还是没摸透门路啊
作者:剑出随风 时间:2010-12-23 12:20:56 河南
  楼上的人好酸啊。。。
  
  
  我军的威望很高的 想参军的人很多。。。 这件事让jy们愤怒了。。
作者:四季之人 时间:2010-12-23 12:34:30 江苏
  有趣
作者:txybzy518 时间:2010-12-23 12:40:40 山东
  加入很贵的,我们这里要送礼的,二万到六万不等!
作者:平常的一天 时间:2010-12-23 12:43:44 上海
  潜力贴
作者:pomwvw 时间:2010-12-23 12:43:58 上海
  
  兵,一个竞争很激烈的行业,有点小路子才能当上
  
  
作者:顶贴被封 时间:2010-12-23 12:45:30 贵州
  
  作者:wuyerei 回复日期:2010-12-23 11:19:20 
  
    这孩子在想啥-_
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  顶
  
作者:lsanmiaou 时间:2010-12-23 12:49:32 重庆
  中国人民解放军是真正人民的军队 正直,善良 无畏 。军姿最是威武 完美的正步,刚毅有力 看看其他国家的队伍。比比就知道他为什么想参军了
作者:重金属小夜曲 时间:2010-12-23 12:52:56 陕西
  有人想出去,有人想进来,出不去的人一定很委屈很愤怒。
作者:逍遥龟 时间:2010-12-23 12:54:06 四川
  大二时遇到过藏族的退伍侦察兵,强壮的不得了,他自夸用曾去云南边境潜伏,还生吃
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作者:ianhwang 时间:2010-12-23 13:03:57 上海
  让他当吧,可以从文化兵开起,负责宣传工作嘛。
作者:金正月007 时间:2010-12-23 13:04:00 辽宁
  放着堂堂正正的人不做,去做狗。
作者:clsndir 时间:2010-12-23 13:04:41 北京
  理论上说有可能的。
  加入香港籍,
  什么阿三,黑人,白人都可以加入进来,组成攻台战略预备队。
  平时由中央和地方提供军费,地方有权在本地维持治安,战时由中央军委统一指挥。
  
作者:国界 时间:2010-12-23 13:04:48 广西
  英文NB的大大,到他的帖子里面去问问,为啥他想加入中国人民解放军,大家都好奇。
作者:国界 时间:2010-12-23 13:06:49 广西
  
  作者:金正月007 回复日期:2010-12-23 13:04:00 
  
    放着堂堂正正的人不做,去做狗。
  
  
  这X真可怜,活得那么阴暗,你爸妈不该把你杂碎生出来。
作者:clsndir 时间:2010-12-23 13:06:52 北京
  估计他以为当兵是一种职业。
  解放军,威武,常胜,当然是个非常好的职业。
作者:小头目811 时间:2010-12-23 13:15:19 山西
  很奇怪吗?中国军人的国际形象很好,真正想当兵的人想体验一下那种整齐划一的硬汉形象很正常
作者:长刀斜挂 时间:2010-12-23 13:17:25 上海
  Nice, since I was born in China and I am biologically Chinese, I could just throw away my US citizenship and join the PLA. But then, Good Iron does not become a nail, and a good man does not become a soldier.
  (其实我的英语不好,但是可以大致翻译一下。比较有趣)
  好吧,如果我出生在中国,那么我生理上就是个中国人。但是“好铁不做钉,好男不当兵”---(我怀疑这是个中国人,他怎么知道这个俗语的?)
作者:eternal9snow 时间:2010-12-23 13:20:30 广东
  很好奇他有这种想法
作者:meditation3 时间:2010-12-23 13:21:13 四川
  隔了这么远,这孩子是被谁洗脑了?。。
作者:长刀斜挂 时间:2010-12-23 13:22:34 北京
  Im more interested in joining their weapons R&D.
  ENGINEER说: 我想去加入他们的武器研发
  
  Im just curious, why do all these ethnic Chinese (or not even that apparently) want to join the PLA so badly?
  Finn McCool : 我只是好奇,为什么这些少数民族(甚至不是那么明显的少数)那么想加入解放军?
  Because they hate freedom!
  
  The answer is very simple. The ethnic Chinese youth you meet on this forum are interesting in PLA, if they want to join other countries army they will not be on this forum.
  I bet you can find Taiwan people with dual citizenship who want to join the ROC Amry in some Taiwan military forum.
  vladimir1918 : 答案很简单,这个论坛上的少数民族想加入解放军。如果他们想加入其他国家的军队,就不会来这个论坛了。如果你去台湾论坛,他们就会说想加入国军!
  
作者:clsndir 时间:2010-12-23 13:23:55 北京
  帅吧



作者:长刀斜挂 时间:2010-12-23 13:25:59 北京
  according to some report published in chinese froum,some divisions,which had serviced in the fouth Field Army of PLA,raised many koreas in the War of Liberatio. and then these koreas came the Korean War.
  feifei :(明显是个中国人,就不具体翻译了,说的是中国人召朝鲜人打朝鲜战争)
  
  
  
作者:Air_Re 时间:2010-12-23 13:28:32 天津
  外国人扇个屁也能让粪粪高潮?粪粪是越来越掉价了…
作者:奥巴马在吃草 时间:2010-12-23 13:32:00 广东
  
  
  作者:金正月007 回复日期:2010-12-23 13:04:00 
  
    放着堂堂正正的人不做,去做狗。===============================你这条狗在吠啥
作者:长刀斜挂 时间:2010-12-23 13:34:56 北京
  Quote:
  Originally Posted by Finn McCool
  Im just curious, why do all these ethnic Chinese (or not even that apparently) want to join the PLA so badly?
  (这个人问为什么那些外人要加入PLA)
  Well there are plenty of foreign nationals in the U.S. military and French Military, so I guess its not completely unusual wanting to join some other nations military.
  (因为其它国家本来就有很多外国人,所以出现这种情况就没什么奇怪的)
  
  Quote:
  Originally Posted by PLA Soldier
  kw64, thank you very much! Your information has been most usefull this far.
  
  No problem Its actually surprisingly easy to apply for Chinese citizenship. The only prerequisite requirement is that you have to be a legal residence living in China. There are no language or minimum years of stay requirements. Due to the economic boom, in recent years theres a spike in number of foreign nationals applying for Chinese citizenship (mostly from Africa and South/Southeastern Asia), and the Chinese government generally maintains a relatively open policy towards Citizenship Applicants so far (unless theres politically sensitive issue involved). The only one thing is that the Chinese government does not recognize duo-citizenship, so you have to give up your previous citizenship once you got the Chinese citizenship. (申请中国身份很容易,你只要中国的法定居民就可以了。没有语言啊居住年限的要求。因为经济很好,所以已经有很多外国人要到中国来。只是大多数都是非洲和南美人)。只是中国不承认双重国籍,所以你要加入中国国籍,就要放弃原国国籍
作者:长刀斜挂 时间:2010-12-23 13:40:15 上海
  To Finn McCool
  Joinging PLA is a family honour in China nowadays. There is a saying in China that you get paid joining army in foreign countries but you have to pay to joing the PLA.
  (我告诉你Finn McCool,加入pla在中国是光耀门楣的是,传说在国外参军要军队给你钱,在中国参军你要给军队钱)
  Honor is something all face loving Chinese treasured. Also they get trained in PLA for various skill like driving, engine repairs etc. Other benifits like vocational traning and job placement after discharge, pirority in getting railway tickets, special rates hotels for servicemen all over China.
  (在中国参军倍有面子,你可以在里面学开车,修理等等,退伍还可以安排工作,坐飞机火车都打折)
  
  People in poor villages are living in extreme hard conditions, and joining PLA and getting trained is a dream to many. (贫困山区的孩子做梦都想参军)
作者:长刀斜挂 时间:2010-12-23 13:45:42 北京
  Joining the PLA has many social benefits when you retire as a veteran, and you can learn many skills that may be helpful in finding a job in an urban center later on. You get a decent salary and is free from housing and living expenses.
  (参军有退休工资,还可以学技术,退休后在都市找工作。有高工资拿,吃喝拉撒都免费)
  Another bonus is that since China is at peace and is in no hurry to fight wars everywhere, you dont really have a chance of getting killed (accidents aside but those are present in civi life as well). This makes the army a safe job and a good one. (并且,中国是和平时期,不打仗,当兵没危险)
作者:chemiely 时间:2010-12-23 13:45:48 辽宁
  不是生为中国人,怎能为其抛头颅洒热血。
作者:ak74b 时间:2010-12-23 13:46:50 广西
  这帖子说明蛋疼的少年是世界性的问题。
作者:深具世界眼光 时间:2010-12-23 13:47:17 山西
  
  外国人说话真有意思
  
作者:xiangpengxiang 时间:2010-12-23 13:48:05 浙江
  楼猪你要不要脸啊,抄ptfcn论坛的都不注明,lj。
作者:秋江夜曲 时间:2010-12-23 13:50:46 四川
  女的欢迎,男的不要
作者:xiangpengxiang 时间:2010-12-23 13:51:30 浙江
  楼猪你要不要脸啊,抄ptfcn论坛的都不注明。
作者:金缕霓裳 时间:2010-12-23 13:52:23 陕西
  这孩子估计在叛逆期,等这几年过了就正常了……
  话说,中国人想当兵都不容易啊,你家要是没点家底没点关系,你进得了部队吗?
作者:redash2 时间:2010-12-23 13:52:42 福建
  作者:ak74b 回复日期:2010-12-23 13:46:50 
  
    这帖子说明蛋疼的少年是世界性的问题。
  ---------
  哈哈哈哈哈
作者:长刀斜挂 时间:2010-12-23 13:53:56 北京
  My first post after lurking here for years:
  (我的帖子沉了一年多了)
  Wrong, a good man becomes a soldier!
  (错了,男人就是要当兵.(说那个好铁不做钉的人))
  
  As far I could remember this is a quote from Kongfuzi and therefore
  absolutely wrong. For confucianism to be right, the followers of
  Kongfuzi must win wars. But how could an anti-military people win?
  How could a people with low regard for the most noble profession of
  (我记得说好铁不做钉这话是孔子说的,如果孔子都是对的话,要打胜仗就照着孔子说的话去打就是了。但是一个反战人士怎么会赢得战争?)
  arms conquer?
作者:xiangpengxiang 时间:2010-12-23 13:54:35 浙江
  楼猪你要不要脸啊,抄ptfcn论坛的都不注明,lj。
作者:xiangpengxiang 时间:2010-12-23 13:55:55 浙江
  楼猪你要不要脸啊,抄ptfcn论坛的都不注明,还把作者开头的话给删了。
作者:xiangpengxiang 时间:2010-12-23 13:56:59 浙江
  楼猪你要不要脸啊,抄ptfcn论坛的都不注明,老子见一次骂一次。
作者:yusuke1983 时间:2010-12-23 13:57:50 江苏
  作者:redash2 回复日期:2010-12-23 13:52:42 
  
    作者:ak74b 回复日期:2010-12-23 13:46:50 
    
      这帖子说明蛋疼的少年是世界性的问题。
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    哈哈哈哈哈
作者:长刀斜挂 时间:2010-12-23 13:58:25 北京
  I understand that Chinese citizenship is hard to get. If they ask reason, I say that I want to join PLA, and you know, fresh meat for the grindery?
  (我动中国公民身份不容易搞,但是如果他们问我为什么要加入中国国籍的话,我就说我要加入PLA? )后面这句不晓得怎么翻译了,字面是鲜肉配好磨,我猜是干材烈火一勾搭就能成功的意思。
作者:红山村 时间:2010-12-23 14:07:18 广东
  3
作者:htddzj 时间:2010-12-23 14:09:28 甘肃
  汗颜!那么多回复没见一句脏话。引以自戒!
作者:长刀斜挂 时间:2010-12-23 14:19:31 北京
  I think this is a point the OP should seriously consider. Being in the army doesnt give one much time to go dating and meeting people. In fact, you can just forget about a normal love/family life.
  (我想你要认真考虑一下,当了兵就不能约会什么的了,中国有漂亮女孩也没你什么事了。你要忘记正常的家庭生活)
  Also, just because China isnt at war doesnt mean being in the Army is safe. The PLA undertakes many dangerous search & rescue missions, and if you get assigned to Xinjiang, you run the risk of being the target of terrorist attacks. (并且,中国不打仗并不代表你不危险,PLA是要抗洪抢险的,如果你被派到新疆,你要被恐怖分子砍的)
作者:长刀斜挂 时间:2010-12-23 14:23:30 北京
  Commander: "How are you, Comrades?"
  Soldiers: "How are you, Commander?
  Commander: "You have been working hard!"
  Soldiers: "Serving the people!"
  这个。。。你懂的。
作者:长刀斜挂 时间:2010-12-23 14:31:13 北京
  any how, PLA soldier has no possibility to join PLA. Only if he is less than 18 years old, one of his parent is Chinese descent and a powerful Chinese uncle~~lol
  (累了,翻译最后一贴吧)
  总之,pla solider(这是个名字)没可能加入pla,除非他还没有18岁,父母有一方是中国人,并且有个强大的中国叔叔。
  (因为前面讨论了要参军得从6岁参加少先队开始。中间还有些帖子讨论少先队的问题)
作者:踩着须弥山吐火玩 时间:2010-12-23 14:32:07 四川
  作者:长刀斜挂 回复日期:2010-12-23 14:23:30 
  
    Commander: "How are you, Comrades?"
    Soldiers: "How are you, Commander?
    Commander: "You have been working hard!"
    Soldiers: "Serving the people!"
    这个。。。你懂的。
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  gelivable。。。
作者:0o斯o0 时间:2010-12-23 14:32:41 福建
  哈哈,好玩。。。。。。。。。
作者:借我一片阳光 时间:2010-12-23 14:37:22 山东
  有意思,外国人的想法挺有意思!
作者:三哥大战棒子 时间:2010-12-23 14:41:21 广东
  想参军,很容易,体检合格就行。
  、
  、
  前提是先拿到中国国籍。
作者:wpskkk2 时间:2010-12-23 14:58:46 广东
  本帖的翻译作者是:Aville
    原翻译帖地址是:http://www.ptfcn.com/ptfcn/s/121.html
    网帖翻译论坛不反对转帖,但请转帖时标明帖子作者和原帖网址!!!
    这是对翻译们劳动的尊重和对网站版权的尊重!!!!
    请本帖的转帖者下次注意!!!!
  
  
作者:昭德公子 时间:2010-12-23 15:04:17 北京
  作者:ianhwang 回复日期:2010-12-23 13:03:57 
  
    让他当吧,可以从文化兵开起,负责宣传工作嘛。
  ---------
  一看你就是当政委的人才。
作者:河洛蟹 时间:2010-12-23 15:05:02 海南
  这孩子很年轻吧
作者:想个没人用的名字 时间:2010-12-23 15:06:37 福建
  作者:wpskkk2 回复日期:2010-12-23 14:58:46 
  
    本帖的翻译作者是:Aville
      原翻译帖地址是:http://www.ptfcn.com/ptfcn/s/121.html
      网帖翻译论坛不反对转帖,但请转帖时标明帖子作者和原帖网址!!!
      这是对翻译们劳动的尊重和对网站版权的尊重!!!!
      请本帖的转帖者下次注意!!!!
    
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  +1
  不打声招呼也就算了
  怎么可以连译者的名字都不留?
作者:喷射七彩体液 时间:2010-12-23 15:08:33 广西
  
  
  作者:wpskkk2 回复日期:2010-12-23 14:58:46 
  
    本帖的翻译作者是:Aville
      原翻译帖地址是:http://www.ptfcn.com/ptfcn/s/121.html
      网帖翻译论坛不反对转帖,但请转帖时标明帖子作者和原帖网址!!!
      这是对翻译们劳动的尊重和对网站版权的尊重!!!!
      请本帖的转帖者下次注意!!!!
作者:踩着须弥山吐火玩 时间:2010-12-23 15:09:41 四川
  让他在CCAV7报新闻也行哈。
作者:九月猎狐 时间:2010-12-23 15:24:15 浙江
  酱油在手,3分我有
作者:色猫英雄传 时间:2010-12-23 15:24:44 北京
  Commander: "How are you, Comrades?"
      Soldiers: "How are you, Commander?
      Commander: "You have been working hard!"
      Soldiers: "Serving the people!"
      这个。。。你懂的。
  
  
  --------------------
  给力啊
作者:闲事管得宽 时间:2010-12-23 15:28:34 海南
  好玩
作者:512404498 时间:2010-12-23 15:36:58 河南
  他纯属来我国渡金的,想想他当完兵后,找工作多容易
作者:四海游僧 时间:2010-12-23 15:38:40 广东
  如今的世界,要找个能真正锻炼一个人意志的地方不多了,中国军队绝对是最好的选择之一,磨练一个人坚强的意志是人一生最宝贵的财富!
作者:浪迹天涯的乌鸦 时间:2010-12-23 15:51:00 四川
可以,只要他不是农村户口,还要给给安排工作。
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